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Has anyone got a clip of the Stewart shirt pull? Seeing quite a lot of Southampton fans claim it was a nailed on pen but I genuinely cant even remember the incident

What a guy. Sounds like that cctv shows a lot more than they’re letting on

Sky SportsMiddlesbrough boss Kim Hellberg shares passionate answer...Following their play-off semi-final defeat to Southampton, Middlesbrough boss Kim Hellberg shares a passionate answer on the alleged spygate drama thats surrounded the fixture.

Hansen came on and looked totally fine it honestly baffles my mind him getting 3 minutes in a scenario like that. Silvera can also be direct, offer something different and bring some pace. We just offered nothing and continued to offer nothing until we had no choice. Again if anyone is misunderstanding me it’s 20/10 for effort and commitment, that’s not even up for question. But on the footballing side we completely flopped and it was a performance on par with the final vs Norwich

Well worth a read this

A thread of neutrals discussing how terrible the refereeing was.

team carried whittaker. he did nothing all game other than give the ball away. its dire when a half fit whittaker is played adead of the others. we need some wingers. soon as conway went off we were out of it. no threat. sarmiento is just terrible, leo is okay but we cant be using him as a key man in a play off game.hanson and sene must be off the manger doesnt trust any of them.

Wrong thread cba moving it

Fair play for asking the question we all want an answer to. This fella was a top analyst before he became a manager so do you really think he didn’t know what his own analysts were up to!

All the criticism of our players, and theres plenty, lets not forget the most incompetent person on the pitch. How on earth this lad thinks this is a shoulder ill never know https://x.com/i/status/2054295383245762664

I think he looks a decent player. But he's barely kicked a ball since he came here and has missed a couple of months with injury. It's also a hell of a step up from League One to a playoff clash against a side that was playing in the Premier League last season. I think it's harsh to judge him on the basis of that performance. But it's another Scott experiment. Another gamble. I wish we'd just signed proven championship players that are capable of playing at a high level. Brittain and Jones were good signings, Targett and Browne have been good loans. But the rest have been a shambles.

Well, if youre not a cheat, you cna say "no, and here is why im not". If you are a cheat... well yes it becomes a less friendly conversation.

Keep Morris malanda if we can Conway Strelec Brittain fry mcgree jones and Ayling possibly targett? Sell or let contract expire obviously Hackney will go play at a good premier league club like he deserves to, Brynn (not good enough) whittaker (if we get a half decent offer) Browne sene Hansen sarmiento castledine (loan) Edmundson Bangura Gilbert dieng Hamilton lenihan munroe (loan) silvera I’d imagine we probably don’t loan out castledine and munroe and they’ll be depth but if they’re not good enough depth now and Hellberg doesn’t want to use them why would they be next season….

Please I just want some forwards with a bit of aggression and ability to hold off defenders. Totally had it with this namby pamby Bambi on ice bullshit

He didnt look neat and tidy to me tonight. every touch and pass he made seemed the wrong one. He is very young so might develop but my initial impressions of him are more a tarmo kink, lewis wing or zemmama type who will be decent at cracking in some long distance shots but will not contribute to making us better as a team.

But again, youre saying nothing to convince me that letting him go wasn't the right decision. He wasn't good enough. Got rid, right decision. Forget about him. The fact we didnt bring in good players in jan is a completely different matter, and its that we need to scrutinise. Not getting rid of someone who wouldnt have made a difference.

Squad needs major surgery, just absolutely nowhere near the level required. Ultimately I truly believe that is what has cost us, January. I’d say only a handful of them are must keeps. Brittain, Fry, Malanda, Jones, Morris, Conway. Not fussed about any of the rest, all quite easily upgradable.

If you listen back to Jordan on talksport today (it's on YouTube) he Def implies Gibson has told him that he spoke with the Southampton hierarchy on Saturday. Gibson has probably told them what he has on them, so go do your internal inv and be straight. I've got to say tho, I'm a bit done with it and can't see the EFL taking it making any action that will benefit us. The team I coach are in the tjfa final at Rockliffe on Saturday, Boro Rangers U8 Reds v Guis town. 4.30 KO. Come and support us. No cheating from my girls 🏆 UTB And Rangers Reds

Especially not when you are a cheat.

One thing I hugely disagree with Kim on is how hes using Castledine. I'm just not getting this false 9 *** he keeps playing him as. Hes obviously a Mcgree type player, neat and tidy with a supposed rocket shot on him, but sticking him up front just shows all his weaknesses. He isn't fast or strong. If you wanted someone to just make a nuisance of themselves upfront with no support Sene (as bad as he is) at least plays that role, even Hansen or Silvera would make a better fist at it that Castledine.

Im not disagreeing with you we do need much better quality. Yes Burgzorg wasnt great and isnt going to win you the league. But given the lack of recruiting anything that offered physicality he was a better alternative to what we are left with. Like I said I wasnt sad to see him go but the fact we got rid of him and brought nothing in to replace him has been costly. Id have preferred to have him as an option than Sarmiento and Sene in the current squad.

I was thinking they would just let Hull go up but then remembered they will want the play off final to take place.

Whilst I'm not looking to defend Eckert, 'are you a cheat?' is probably not likely to lead to a nice friendly conversation 😀