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I agree with that but it’s something we’ll only know once they start working together, if we find out at all. I seen it mentioned that Carrick didn’t really utilise Danks much and that’s a reason he left, but then he was also ‘given’ woodgate who it’s said he may have quit the job to stay loyal to so who knows. If wicky actually is the guy, his assistants didn’t get visas last time so he may have no choice anyway. Equally if Viveash is as good as his reputation suggests you’d hope he would be fully utilised
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Was Danks club appointed? I thought he was Carrick's suggestion? He must be the only one that actually worked out ok, albeit he wasn't here that long. In any case I'm not saying that Viveash is a training ground ornament more that he could end up as one if the new guy isn't that arsed about him being here. Managers tend to have people they want to work with, and when you try to impose someone else on them it may not work because the manager will tend to put less value on their opinions.
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Just to reply to the last point, our last club/scott appointed coach went on to be poached by Bayern Munich, so I’d assume these type of coaches are more than just training ground ornaments.
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I feel like I'm hammering the fella, which isn't my intention, but this is pretty much the over the top rhetoric that I'm talking about. What you've said there kinda sounds like flannel to be blunt. Like business speak or corporate jargon. Viveash hasn't been there done that etc. His time coaching at this level has lead to zero promotions. He was part of Coventry gaining promotion from the levels below this, which should have some value I agree, but he has no achievements to speak of at this level. I'm sure that Viveash played his part at Coventry but Robins seems to be doing alright at Stoke without him. I think Coventry struggling a bit after Viveash left possibly lead people to conclude that it was Viveash who was responsible for the good stuff but Robins doing ok without him perhaps suggests it wasn't as simple as that. We've seen it here with assistants either getting credit or criticism for stuff that probably they had little to do with - Higgy with Karanka getting credit, Woody with Carrick getting criticism. We've even had a bit of it with Edwards and Viveash. Hopefully if he does stay he will be a respected voice/opinion rather than just someone who is there because somebody else wants him to be.
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I think the fact he can play both wings is a huge advantage when squad building. At present with Trent not getting a game I think it'll likely be James, Livramento, Hall and Spence as full backs with Burn and Konsa able to play wide from the CBs. O'Reilly may get in but I think it'll be him or Hall, not both of them. Then you got Lewis Skelly but he's not getting a game for Arsenal at present, could change second half of the season for some reason. Fairly certain he only didn't get a game this break because Tuchel was annoyed with his attitude
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To bring it back to basics, Viveash has been there, done that, got the t-shirt in terms of achievement within the level we find ourselves. Coventry's achievements weren't down to Robins alone. Living in the West Midlands, Viveash is often cited as an enormous element of their success among fans. A recipe is only as strong as it's ingredients and how they combine together. Arguably, our strongest ingredient at present? Adi. Whose key experience is outside of ourselves. If we can link that with the experience of someone like Wicky? A talent, but with no experience of the league, and they symbiotically align? Then adaptability becomes a huge benefit. To my mind, Adi is key to both our continuity and growth.
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OldManGravz replied to Humpty's topic in Boro Forum
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Could be that interviews were sorted but some wildcard has thrown their hat into the ring last minute and we are willing to hear them out
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He is from The British Isles...
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No politics please 🤣
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Banned for being British, well there you go. I wonder what Nige would make of this? 🤔
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When I become moderator I will be changing your username to 'Cancelled Times' 👍
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Being British isn't that bad 🤷♂️
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You can't say that sort of thing these days...
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🤦♂️ Literally nobody would CT 🤪
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Maybe he'd just like to be British? 🤷♂️
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Do we know who Wicky’s usual/previous assistants are and if they are out of work? took a while in the summer to announce the manager as sorting contracts for multiple people. my guess is if interviews are finished, then take the weekend to finalise thoughts, official internal decision Monday and then few days to get contracts sorted. New manager announced before the weekend but probably watching in the stands while Adi takes the match.
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You couldn’t possibly have thought he was British 🤷♂️If you did I apologise. The fact that there was no possibility of an Irish player from Cork could ever be deemed to be British is on you. Unless you’re about 120 years old 🙄
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That’s what this is about Because I thought alan browne is British??? Surely not 😂😂
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You started the nonsense with your anti Gibson mambo jumbo. Maybe try and engage your brain before you type? Although with the nonsense you spouted about Alan Browne maybe you should not bother type at all
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Inviting someone for an interview is not the same as making a decision to hire someone. He’s not overriding anything ffs. That’s the last I’m saying on this you’re just repeating the same nonsense over and over
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You said that he would be a classic Gibson appointment. I merely pointed out to you that maybe Gibson has left the decision to the man he employs (Kieron Scott) to make the decision and for some bizarre reason you seem to think that he would override the decision of the Director of Football. It is high time that you realised that our Chairman is the best in the game and actually supported him for a change
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What on earth are you on about? I think solskjaer is a more than viable option and I don’t see how bringing someone to interview is ‘overriding’ anyone. Bizarre way to go on over such a small thing
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It is anti Gibson and you know it is. You have absolutely no idea what way Steve Gibson thinks about the appointment of the new manager but you are prepared to announce that you are surprised that Solskjaer is not on the list because he would be a “classic Gibson choice” Of course he is on the panel Ashe is the pay master but to claim that he is overriding the Director of Football is just pure BS
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It was in the echo that Gibson was to be part of the panel and I highly doubt this will be a decision made by one person alone. I really don’t see the problem saying solskjaer fits Gibsons profile as the type of manager he likes because he does. I don’t see how that’s ’anti Gibson’
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I agree with that but it’s something we’ll only know once they start working together, if we find out at all. I seen it mentioned that Carrick didn’t really utilise Danks much and that’s a reason he left, but then he was also ‘given’ woodgate who it’s said he may have quit the job to stay loyal to so who knows. If wicky actually is the guy, his assistants didn’t get visas last time so he may have no choice anyway. Equally if Viveash is as good as his reputation suggests you’d hope he would be fully utilised
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By Changing Times · Posted
Was Danks club appointed? I thought he was Carrick's suggestion? He must be the only one that actually worked out ok, albeit he wasn't here that long. In any case I'm not saying that Viveash is a training ground ornament more that he could end up as one if the new guy isn't that arsed about him being here. Managers tend to have people they want to work with, and when you try to impose someone else on them it may not work because the manager will tend to put less value on their opinions. -
Just to reply to the last point, our last club/scott appointed coach went on to be poached by Bayern Munich, so I’d assume these type of coaches are more than just training ground ornaments.
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By Changing Times · Posted
I feel like I'm hammering the fella, which isn't my intention, but this is pretty much the over the top rhetoric that I'm talking about. What you've said there kinda sounds like flannel to be blunt. Like business speak or corporate jargon. Viveash hasn't been there done that etc. His time coaching at this level has lead to zero promotions. He was part of Coventry gaining promotion from the levels below this, which should have some value I agree, but he has no achievements to speak of at this level. I'm sure that Viveash played his part at Coventry but Robins seems to be doing alright at Stoke without him. I think Coventry struggling a bit after Viveash left possibly lead people to conclude that it was Viveash who was responsible for the good stuff but Robins doing ok without him perhaps suggests it wasn't as simple as that. We've seen it here with assistants either getting credit or criticism for stuff that probably they had little to do with - Higgy with Karanka getting credit, Woody with Carrick getting criticism. We've even had a bit of it with Edwards and Viveash. Hopefully if he does stay he will be a respected voice/opinion rather than just someone who is there because somebody else wants him to be. -
By OldManGravz · Posted
I think the fact he can play both wings is a huge advantage when squad building. At present with Trent not getting a game I think it'll likely be James, Livramento, Hall and Spence as full backs with Burn and Konsa able to play wide from the CBs. O'Reilly may get in but I think it'll be him or Hall, not both of them. Then you got Lewis Skelly but he's not getting a game for Arsenal at present, could change second half of the season for some reason. Fairly certain he only didn't get a game this break because Tuchel was annoyed with his attitude
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