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looking the rules up thats a per season allowance, so releasing our current loan would not entitle us to make it 3 over 23s loaned in a season.  I also think with O'brien being a loan to get his costs off the books for the season for forrest then we would probs only be able to send him back if we had a clause to do so and normally in these situations you have them for the season unless someone else takes the loan over. 

don't think we would offer that to get a loan, cant give a team first option if the player isnt giving them first option also, and why would he limit where he goes if he wanted to move, his agent wouldn't let him unless we paid him for that  I wouldn't be surprised if they signed or loaned an RB who can also do CB, seems to be a trend with this seasons recruitment having players that cover more than one spot, although I would prefer a RB specialist than a jack of all trades in defence. I think for McNair to take a move right now it would have to be a perfect opportunity for him that he couldn't turn down in January, otherwise I feel he will just run his contract down. I believe the leaks we saw about him leaving in the summer may have been the club trying to generate more interest and nothing happened. I can't see him having 6 months before a leaving on a free transfer and then taking a move unless it was something you just couldn't turn down incase you missed out.  which I would imagine would be a move to the prem or a team with 1 foot in the premier league (like lecister city), I feel he has too much pedigree for him to be someone who would fear being out of contract without a deal in the summer, and don't think clubs would pay him the same as they would in the summer (or give him as many years) if they have to toss us a couple of million to make it happen. I feel if he was going to let us sell him it would of already happened.  I do think some cover/competition for him would be smart if we can manage it, because if he stays and has zero intention of signing a contract then can we rely on him giving 100% in the final months of the season when he knows what opportunities are at risk if he gets injured.

Unless we are planning on sending O'brien back, we can't sign both anyway.  You can only have 2 players over aged 23 from the same club. 

Problem is that McNair will likely be sold if a bid comes in just to get him off the wage bill in January but without cover we can't afford to let him go. We have Clarke but we have no idea if he will break down again meaning a huge risk, Fry's fitness/availability is an ongoing concern and has been for a few season, (great lad and loves the club but he always has a few periods of absence every season), Lenihan won't be back this season, RVB is 19 years old.  In 6 months time everything "may" be rosy but right here and now our CB situation is in desperation mode. We saw what happened at the business end of last season and that was just over a couple of weeks, not 5 months. We can't literally limp into the last half of a season with walking wounded and crossing fingers. Do we carry on nursing players or do we rid ourselves of the 70% attendees? I wouldn't be surprised if the Club have already plans to get rid of Fry and Clarke for fitness reasons (harsh but it's business), Paddy is out of contract regardless and Lenihan may never get back to the same levels but if he does that only leaves two CB's. 

…can’t imagine what that must be like🙄