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  2. looking the rules up thats a per season allowance, so releasing our current loan would not entitle us to make it 3 over 23s loaned in a season. I also think with O'brien being a loan to get his costs off the books for the season for forrest then we would probs only be able to send him back if we had a clause to do so and normally in these situations you have them for the season unless someone else takes the loan over.
  3. don't think we would offer that to get a loan, cant give a team first option if the player isnt giving them first option also, and why would he limit where he goes if he wanted to move, his agent wouldn't let him unless we paid him for that I wouldn't be surprised if they signed or loaned an RB who can also do CB, seems to be a trend with this seasons recruitment having players that cover more than one spot, although I would prefer a RB specialist than a jack of all trades in defence. I think for McNair to take a move right now it would have to be a perfect opportunity for h
  4. Unless we are planning on sending O'brien back, we can't sign both anyway. You can only have 2 players over aged 23 from the same club.
  5. Problem is that McNair will likely be sold if a bid comes in just to get him off the wage bill in January but without cover we can't afford to let him go. We have Clarke but we have no idea if he will break down again meaning a huge risk, Fry's fitness/availability is an ongoing concern and has been for a few season, (great lad and loves the club but he always has a few periods of absence every season), Lenihan won't be back this season, RVB is 19 years old. In 6 months time everything "may" be rosy but right here and now our CB situation is in desperation mode. We saw what happened at t
  6. …can’t imagine what that must be like🙄
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  8. Needing another cb whilst already 5 at the club.
  9. RVDB is a centre half which emphasises the need for a right back with Dijksteel the only other ‘competent’ player we have in that position. I’d imagine we’re making enquiries to ensure we aren't caught cold if Paddy does leave in January. We like to have irons in the fire for every position, particularly those that carry an element of risk via injuries or lack of depth/quality. Essentially I’d say Kieren Scott is just doing a diligent job.
  10. I guess we're planning that after Christmas, Lenihan and Smith will still be out. Risk Paddy will be gone and we're determined to never buy a right-back ever again. Presumably Coulson will be told to swing his bags as well. That leaves us with RB: Van Der Berg, Dijksteel CB: Fry, Clarke, one on loan, one bought (if Paddy goes*) LB: Bangura, Engel Judging by how we dealt with Bola, we would prefer to sell McNair for what we can get. Might be hard to persuade him to leave in January though unless someone at the bottom of the Prem comes in for him as squad cover.
  11. Maybe we are giving them first option on Hackney in the summer to sweeten the deal
  12. Or maybe discussing both deals but with intention of concluding one? Worrall signed a new long term deal in summer but think McKenna out of contract in summer. Club maybe have a preferred candidate oit the two but if that don't work then move on to other so doing leg work on that just in case. Both are very competent defenders at this level so would be very happy with either.
  13. Are these mysterious injuries, just before Jan while they talk with other clubs haha
  14. Teamtalk reckon we've enquired about a double swoop apparently. Seems unlikely unless we're shifting a couple out. Paddy and Dael? 🤷‍♂️
  15. No hes a Boro fan, he was basing his opinion from his Blackburn days from the beginning of the season when itcwas announced hed signed for Sunderland
  16. Nowt to take notice of marra. Moggas signing, but hasn't been playing him. Your mate must be going to the training sessions if hes seen much of him marra. He is the archetypal over the hill, overpaid signing that I thought we'd got away from. Moggas biggest mistake for us. He won't get a look in now Uncle Tony has gone.
  17. Surprised at that, a mate at work was telling me what a cracking signing he was, havent took any notice of him since he signed so I'll take your word for it George
  18. to be fair im glad, I have a feeling for how much of a mess they come across publicly that there is a decent likleyhood that they would get their *** together in our league pretty quickly and be someone I'd rather not compete with over other teams
  19. Good post and welcome back to the fold once again!
  20. Happy birthday to a cracking signing by John Neal bringing an excellent goalscorer to the Boro Registered No524, when manager John Neal handed him his 1st start he became the 92nd different Boro player to score on their debut when, on the 7th October 2978, he scored our 2nd goal to Man Utd in a 3-2 defeat An excellent Boro striker, born in Preston on the 8th December 1946, signed for the mighty Boro when John Neal paid Cardiff City £72k for his signature & what a striker he turned out to be Between 1978 -81 he played 67 games, scoring 24 goals, cracking ratio Not forgetti
  21. Don't get much chance to post on here lately, we've been stuck in League One for a few years but now we're back and really making an impact. We lost our first away game since February at WBA a couple of weeks ago, fair play they deserved it. We didn't show up and underperformed and they were up for it, it was a fair result. We score more goals than just about anyone else in the division. Have loads of attacking potential but keeping them out is often a problem. Been games at Portman Road this season and seen 4 - 3's and 3 - 2's . Only Leeds have taken a win and th
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  23. 7th December 1974 This week 1974 we played 3 teams in the space of 7 days, each team wore identical kits, blue tops, white shorts & blue socks, with the 3 games identical scores, with 5 different goalscorers with only one Boro player scoring in all 3 games There were 3 changes from the previous game with John Craggs missing his 1st game of the season with Tony McAndrsw starting his 1st game of the season Peter Brine starting his 1st game of the season after 2 sub appearances Alan Willey brought back from the cold after 4 games out Attendance - 23,735 - Holgate f
  24. Heine Otto was absolute class, so glad I had the pleasure of having at coffee with him at Ajaxs stadiums canteen
  25. Rotherham set to appoint ex Wigan boss, Leam Richardson, as they new manager. Hopefully his honeymoon period will be over by time we play them. 4 league games before then.
  26. I like Hoppe and would love to see him succeed, but he's always come across as a bit just happy to be here, maybe his time away has focused his mind on what he needs to do to be a success here and he'll return a different player. There is definitely talent in there.
  27. Theres an Adama card in SBCs for anyone else doing the Boro PnP, and you can get Jones up to an 86 now if you've been doing the evos correctly
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    • looking the rules up thats a per season allowance, so releasing our current loan would not entitle us to make it 3 over 23s loaned in a season.  I also think with O'brien being a loan to get his costs off the books for the season for forrest then we would probs only be able to send him back if we had a clause to do so and normally in these situations you have them for the season unless someone else takes the loan over. 
    • don't think we would offer that to get a loan, cant give a team first option if the player isnt giving them first option also, and why would he limit where he goes if he wanted to move, his agent wouldn't let him unless we paid him for that  I wouldn't be surprised if they signed or loaned an RB who can also do CB, seems to be a trend with this seasons recruitment having players that cover more than one spot, although I would prefer a RB specialist than a jack of all trades in defence. I think for McNair to take a move right now it would have to be a perfect opportunity for him that he couldn't turn down in January, otherwise I feel he will just run his contract down. I believe the leaks we saw about him leaving in the summer may have been the club trying to generate more interest and nothing happened. I can't see him having 6 months before a leaving on a free transfer and then taking a move unless it was something you just couldn't turn down incase you missed out.  which I would imagine would be a move to the prem or a team with 1 foot in the premier league (like lecister city), I feel he has too much pedigree for him to be someone who would fear being out of contract without a deal in the summer, and don't think clubs would pay him the same as they would in the summer (or give him as many years) if they have to toss us a couple of million to make it happen. I feel if he was going to let us sell him it would of already happened.  I do think some cover/competition for him would be smart if we can manage it, because if he stays and has zero intention of signing a contract then can we rely on him giving 100% in the final months of the season when he knows what opportunities are at risk if he gets injured.
    • Unless we are planning on sending O'brien back, we can't sign both anyway.  You can only have 2 players over aged 23 from the same club. 
    • Problem is that McNair will likely be sold if a bid comes in just to get him off the wage bill in January but without cover we can't afford to let him go. We have Clarke but we have no idea if he will break down again meaning a huge risk, Fry's fitness/availability is an ongoing concern and has been for a few season, (great lad and loves the club but he always has a few periods of absence every season), Lenihan won't be back this season, RVB is 19 years old.  In 6 months time everything "may" be rosy but right here and now our CB situation is in desperation mode. We saw what happened at the business end of last season and that was just over a couple of weeks, not 5 months. We can't literally limp into the last half of a season with walking wounded and crossing fingers. Do we carry on nursing players or do we rid ourselves of the 70% attendees? I wouldn't be surprised if the Club have already plans to get rid of Fry and Clarke for fitness reasons (harsh but it's business), Paddy is out of contract regardless and Lenihan may never get back to the same levels but if he does that only leaves two CB's. 
    • …can’t imagine what that must be like🙄

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