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Been told he’s off25 points
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Easy enough to write patronising rubbish when you don’t actually support the club? We are only Middlesbrough after all? Narrative seems to be ‘stop moaning, be grateful for what you have, with a bit of luck you could have been 10th instead of 15th’ Well whoopee-do Craig. Come back when you’ve done a lifetime of support and at least 5 years of watching backwards anti-football. To my mind we are exactly where we deserve to be in the league right now, and given the investment it’s nowhere near good enough.21 points
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I don't know if anyone else was close by or saw that but I was coming down the stairs in the North for the build up to that second goal. Payero sets up Coburn and we should be saying first and foremost how good Coburn was as a young lad coming on for those final few minutes and he deserved his goal. Great stuff. But the relief for Payero. Oh my word. Fans and players alike just wanted to hug the lad. Everyone running in to celebrate with him. I've watched him a lot this season so far and I don't just mean on the pitch. Watched his body language as a young lad coming in from a country on t19 points
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Teams: Boro v Reading (which, coincidentally is also the name of Middlesbrough Council’s new anti-literacy campaign.... Burning books near you soon!) Location: Madejski Stadium Competition: The Championship Date: Saturday 25th September 2021 Time: 12:30 Introduction Welcome to the Reading Festival 2021. Full of revelry and rivalry. Don’t forget to stop by the food halls for all your evening snack and breakfast needs! The Last Games Boro 1 – 2 Blackpool. The Seasiders beat the Teessiders. Payero remained one of the outsiders. Spora16 points
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Revisionism and nonsense. 49 goals in a full season under Pulis, 68 and 63 in our seasons under Karanka. We might have been shot shy and moved the ball a bit ponderously under Karanka but we played half decent football (esp first full season). Kept the ball on the floor, looked to control possession and had a clear gameplan. For all the talk about his negativity, Karanka never put out a side of a lone striker, 5 defensive mids and 4 centre backs.15 points
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If our young marquee signing has felt like he's had to return to Argentina because he feels homesick/unwelcome then that's completely on the manager and club for not making him feel welcome. Disgraceful if true.13 points
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I don't honestly understand how a midfielder like Payero is meant to perform when he doesn't get the ball. To both @KeithLambsFaxMachine and @TeaCider24, I didn't have Payero down as performing poorly at all against Reading, nor Crooks for that matter. They didn't play well but they didn't play poorly either. Both players never actually got the ball, it was lumped over and over again and it says a lot that even Crooks didn't manage that many touches in a game like that. It was probably only the fact he could head the ball that he ended up with as many as he did and that wasn't many. Compa12 points
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New from JML this Christmas - Neil Warnock Boro Bingo! Love Bingo? Love watching your football team completely fail to deliver when it matters? Love listening to the post-match interview with the gaffer, where no probing questions are asked and the answers could have been chosen out of a tombola? Well, now you can recreate those thrilling BBC Tees post-match interviews yourself, with Neil Warnock Boro Bingo! Simply choose your disappointing Boro result (bonus points if the team loses by more than two goals), and then select from one of 50 ready-made excuses! Including: "We11 points
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But Sporar's xG shows that if it's Saturday, and he ate 3 Weetabix before training on the Friday, that he should have actually scored a hat trick. But he didn't eat his Weetabix until Saturday morning, plus the moon was over Jupiter on Friday night, so actually, the stats are wrong and we're doing just fine, actually11 points
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It's not even the style, to be honest - at least as far as I'm concerned. It's more that he's lost the spark himself. When he first arrived, he seemed to have this way of taking any player and making them feel like a better player. He picked up Bola, Dijksteel, McNair, Tav and Fry and put an arm around them and brought out amazing things from them. Joking that Anf was his favourite, making Tav jealous - there seemed to be an amazing spirit in the camp. At that point it really did seem like players would run through brick walls for the man. Then, probably around the January transfer w11 points
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Karanka's football was nothing like Pulis or Warnock. We were slow and considered, sure, but we dominated the ball with good technical passing - teams couldn't lay a glove on us most matches. We were dangerous from set pieces and usually got the goal we needed one way or another. I loved that side - only time I've ever felt proud to be a Middlesbrough fan (bit young to truly experience the glory years). I think back to beating Brighton 3-0 at their place... and look at both sides now. Makes me genuinely sad. EDIT: Sorry Kiwi, re-read and can see you meant Pulis was equall11 points
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Because he's our Head of Football. It's in his remit. If we didn't trust him to do it, we wouldn't have hired him to do it. But right now, that's part of his job. I do remember where we were before Warnock. We'd put a manager in charge without any experience of the job because we knew who he was, we put a PR man in charge of football recruitment and made up stuff about a Golden Thread. Unless that's what you expect Scott to do...11 points
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Reading - worst defence in the league, no clean sheets, enter Boro. Hull - longest run without a win in all four divisions, enter Boro. It just isn’t happening- Warnocks promotion teams would have won both these games, probably 1-0. He isn’t working his magic this time. Move on.11 points
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Anyone defending Warnock and thinks he’s the right man to get us out of this, take a look at this thread, points out all of our issues10 points
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Anthony Vickers for Craig Johns is the worst substitution since Pulis brought Friend on for Assombalonga against Brentford.10 points
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Let’s say that it is just a results business and nothing else. Since Warnock has been here we’ve lost more games than we’ve won. So immediately we can see that results haven’t been all that. Splitting his time here, he had a 50% winning record in the 2019/20 season when he helped keep us up. In the first half of last season this came down a bit to 43.48%. In the second half of last season it came down again to 34.78%. This season it’s currently standing at 27.27%. In a results business, that would indicate a fairly clear trend, wouldn’t you say? At no point have we had a set of resu10 points
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Why does that matter? We're not Neil Warnock FC, we don't owe him the rest of this season. He had a go last year and this year we're clearly already thinking beyond him. I couldn't care less if he chooses to retire after this one personally, that's up to him, it's nothing to do with Middlesbrough.10 points
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Imagine whinging about being given players most managers in the league would love a chance to work with. Reading eased past us with literally half of their entire first XI injured - while under transfer embargo. Wonder what budget Coventry and Blackpool had to work with? He really is starting to look silly.10 points
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Imagine talking about one of your clubs greatest ever hero's in this way whether you want him back as manager or not. Give your head a shake.10 points
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Apart from the three points we at last saw what Payero is capable of, balance pace and the vision for a pass with his head up, no doubt he will be dropped for the next game by the Dino. A mention too for Bamba, 36 years old and recovered from cancer and still a class act, oh and Josh Coburn even at this stage must start before Ikpeazu. Good night9 points
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Ah sez t’ Ronneh ah sez 'where's fuckin Pahyehro gerrim toll'd t'warm up'. He sez 'yer jokin he gorrah plane teh Buenos Aires', nearleh jumped out me soddin skin, d'yer knerr. Bloodeh fikel boro fans realleh. Miss meh wen back in Cornwall wi’ Sharon and gran kids. Cor Blimeh9 points
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Well there we go, it's come sooner than expected and suitably he is finding facts to suit the opinion rather than basing his opinion on facts. All this just to challenge fans on their views whilst the manager gets away with murder. He's not just taking up an odd position but this is an awful time to take up this position and stand by this utter trash.9 points
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Only 23 minutes to go. I've already closed my office door, rolled the curtains down, dimmed the lights and brought out the lube. It's going to be epic.9 points
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If the stuff mentioned before about the backroom staff bullying players is true then they should be sacked immediately in my opinion. There should be no compromises as far as that is concerned9 points
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Bit of a dig at Warnock it seems9 points
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If he can’t do anymore with this squad then he needs to go9 points
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Pulis made people fall out of love with football. That's how bad it was with him in charge.9 points
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In 1801, Middlesbrough was a small farm with a population of just 25. Joseph Pease of Darlington needed a port for his coal ships, so created 'Port Darlington' and brought in Irish labourers to create what became Middlesbrough. This increase was fuelled in 1841when Henry Bolckow and John Vaughan of Wales, discovered ironstone deposits in the Eston Hills. The name 'Middlesbrough' predates the settlement, and possibly relates to an abbey located halfway between Whitby and Durham. It is 'brough' rather than 'borough' due to a spelling error when it was given its charter in 1853. Middlesbrou9 points
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We're a yoyo club. We're just doing the 'walk the dog' trick at the minute...9 points
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Look at this graphic. The two bullet points at the bottom are bonkers. People were still complaining back then about the style of play and ‘negative’ football as well.9 points
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Middlesbrough vs Peterborough Saturday 16th November – 3:00 pm Riverside Stadium The current standings: Boro currently find themselves in a disappointing 15th position after 11 games. Following a decent transfer window, I think a lot of us expected more from the team with playoffs being a realistic expectation. Warnock is definitely underachieving with this squad at the moment, but there's plenty of games still to go and it looks like w8 points
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Loved Payero's reaction to the assist, its clearly meant a lot to him, also the way the rest of the players reacted to him, they celebrated it like he had scored. He looked lost in the first half but came into the game more when Jones cam on and Tav went into the middle.8 points
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It looks like Sporar's famous dog has arrived in the UK, hopefully he scores a goal in its honour.8 points
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Payero back in England 👍 Hopefully in contention for Saturday8 points
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I imagine they’re similar conversations going on in Saudi Arabia just now when the people of that country see how Newcastle fans treat their horses 🤜 🐴 and force their women to parade in miniskirts & boob tubes in sub zero temperatures8 points
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Pardon? How do you achieve promotion with a squad who are absolutely dispondant. Public critism of footballers in this day and age is an absolute no no... like it or not. Colin knows this yet he can't help himself. He's basically been on self destruct because he can't keep his big mouth shut about certain things since December last year. Its a fine balance too keep a squad happy and he's basically going in on people like a bulldozer publicly. How on earth do you re-unite that dressing I don't think it's possible when you look at the body language of the players they look dismayed. Hes go8 points
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I don't want rid because he's a dinosaur, it's because he's averaged one point a game. I didn't want rid of Woodgate because he was inexperienced, it's because he averaged one point a game.8 points
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Can you give me a percentage of how much you trust your source to be right? I'm.about to go for a pint and need to know if it's going to turn into 10 so I can let my boss know I won't be in tomorrow8 points
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We were never this bad under pulis long term (that 6 game losing streak is still the worst run of form since we were relegated wasnt it?) In terms of results. But his football was even more defensive, archaic and boring than warnocks. I know you don't mind that as I'm sure many others don't, but I think the majority want to see something a bit more progressive that might actually get us promoted. He had two chances, with a squad good enough to manage it, and he failed. So, he's a failure as a manager here. Same as Warnock is proving himself to be8 points
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Slightly surprised at how chipper people seem to be after last night. Not in terms of the result obviously, but the game was much like any other we've had since Warnock has been here. You'd think after reading some of the comments post match that we'd played much better or differently when really it was largely the same, and against a mediocre opponent. We created nothing at all really. We scored from two good strikes but did nothing else throughout the game. If you can hit those types of finishes every game then great but that's unlikely to happen so we're still stuck with the same i8 points
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It must be really tough on Payero. A Young lad thousands of miles away from family and friends and from all the familiar things he grew up with, even the smells of Cooking that will all be different to be stuck somewhere where things aren't working for him the way he would have dreamt. I hope that the Club (and the Manager) have the sense to recognise this and are helping him to integrate into his new surroundings before he sinks into a dark place. The lad clearly has skill but I know when I was his age I was given a great Job opportunity in the East end of London and walked away from it8 points
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To be honest this idea that Neil Warnock is trying to put across of 'unprofessional' habits which he's picking up 2 years into the job really doesn't wash with me, he used to give his QPR and Cardiff players international breaks off if they got him a couple of wins beforehand and he let Taarabt play games he wanted to play and let him turn up once a week for training. He also allowed Paddy Kenny to skip training Sunday-Thursday because he didn't want him travelling down the M1 every day for QPR training, so the notion that Warnock and Craig short are trying to put in place some ultra-prof8 points
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I don't mean this to come out as harsh as it sounds, but that is (was) a lazy trope for his time at Sheffield. Wilder (and Knill) is a pretty innovative coach, his method of creating overloads in the wide areas, by using "overlapping centre backs" was a big reason they did so well in the PL (1st season). Partly because it was a new style opposition teams had to cope with and partly because they were pretty good at it (honned in the Championship). The injury to O'Connell was massive in their relegation season. If you take Wilder's Sheffield team (in 18/19) and compare it to us last s8 points
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It’s been this way for ever since he’s been at the club. Any team that remotely plays any type of football, and we struggle. It ends up as the following… 1. we can’t control the game. 2. Our defence gets dragged all over (man marking doesn’t help). 3. When we eventually do get the ball, we are all out of position. 4. This then resorts us to lumping it up into the channel. 5. Rinse and repeat. Nothing is going to change until Warnock is gone. End of.8 points
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Payero going mental on the touchline after Coburns goal was great to see 😃7 points
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Glad they don't all lack a conscience.7 points
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I was thinking about this the other day after reading a thread on FMTTM. I think it's safe to say that we wouldn't have had so many years in the Premier League, the cup finals and Europe and I wonder how we would have moved away from Ayresome Park. However, sitting here today we are in exactly the same position in the league as we were on the day that SG joined the board in 1984, with a lot more debt. If you index link the debt that we had at the time that we went out of business, it works out at about £6.5 million in today's money. According to a report in 2020 our debt was actually7 points
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Too much recruitment. Tore up the promotion winning side and lost all the togetherness and team spirit that usually helps propel newly promoted teams on to half-decent seasons. Replacing key players like Adomah, Nugent, Nsue, Leadbitter, Dimi, Ayala (although enforced through injury) was way too much all at once. Especially when some of the signings (Valdes) clearly were just in it for the pay.7 points
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Good to see you’re actually capable of words - I thought your highest level of communication was reacts7 points
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The Gazette putting out a lot of negative stories at the minute, usually that means the manager is on his last legs. Gibbo probably given them the nod.7 points
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It wasn't just a few minutes. I'm pretty sure he got more time than Bahamboula did on the pitch for us didn't he? That was someone who seemed to have the consensus of the fans that he was worth a go for the small fee we had to pay. Paterson didn't look influential, he didn't look fit, he was bang average. -
Given Warnock's apparent opinions on fitness and his performances in those friendlies, I'm not at all shocked that we didn't sign him and I'm still relatively glad we didn't. He's not setting the league alight every week just as his team isn't and really, whose place does he take in the team? Watmore? Tav? Hernandez? Jones? I'm not sure I'd swap any of those players with Paterson. Sounds like he was influential today and scored a cracking goal? Good for him. But he's done that before we had the chance to sign him too, not sure why it would change many opinions on whether we should have brought him in.
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So any of those players could have been sat on our bench yesterday but instead we only named six subs, including the non-league player who hasn't looked ready for this level, who gets in for no other reason than Warnock signed him. No wonder they called themselves Warnock's rejects. It must be utterly deflating to play for this club unless you're one of the favoured ones. One of the least professionally run football clubs in the country.
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