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Delighted to see that @YusufBoro went ahead with his Yusuf Meets blog. The first one with Yannick Bolasie is on the Boro website now. Well done @YusufBoro š6 points
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If I wrote a post that said, 'I don't like foreigners, they are all smelly', I assume that at least some people would see that as a bit offensive, even if it's almost certainly the case with SmogDane. Similarly, if I wrote a post saying, 'British people are much better than foreigners', that would be seen as a touch xenophobic, even if I am living proof of the absolute truth of this. So why is this kind of discussion even taking place? The issue isn't about British or foreign ownership, it's about good or bad ownership/direction/call it whatever you want, and that isn't determined by nation6 points
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I donāt want Gibson to sell the club. However, I do want him to delegate his powers to a Director of Football. Much in the same way that whilst Delia Smith is a great cook, she knows her limitations running a football club in an efficient and effective manner so appointed Stuart Webber to do this. Gibson just rates himself too highly to think that anyone could possibly do this better than him. The Evening Gazette and BBC Tees portray any criticism of Gibson as fans wanting him to sell the club, but itās not that at all. I think the vast majority want him to be our owner, just not the key decis5 points
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I think most Boro fans actually want Gibbo to stay but also to change. The club in terms of outlook, philosophy and structure needs to change and that starts at the top. It been nearly 20 years since Eindhoven and the peak of our achievements under Gibbo. But even then the cracks were showing we had an aging squad on high wages and no sell on value. It was something that had worked but meant long term you are leaking money. Splashing cash is Gibboās modest operandi he did it with Robson and with McLaren it was working. Sadly what wasnāt noticed were two dramatic changes4 points
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@Erimus 63 I am not sure how from my post you came to conclusion i was in adoration of Gibson. In fact i actually state āgibson is not perfectā. To be fair no owner is. People who are fans of Gibson can point to justifiable reasons why. And people who are not fans of his can also make some justifiable reasons as to why they are not. I can appreciate both sides of argument. However, the point of my post was to simply say āthe grass is not always greener on the other sideā. Do I want to see if the grass is greener? Not really. I see other clubs who were similar in size to us d4 points
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And so it ends not with a bang but with a whimper: With our hopes of the play offs diminishing inconsistent Boro are being sent to Coventry (well actually Birmingham). Heres what we I have thrown together. The strikers, the recruitment team and the tea lady have all been thrown under the bus in recent weeks. Who will be thrown this week? What Team and Formation Will Warnock go with? What would you do? At what point do we stop playing the loan lads? Some pictures to make boring stats look interesting: We all remember Keit3 points
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Itās called āBoro Lads Messageboardā Donāt think they thought about the abbreviation for too long tho š¤¦āāļø3 points
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Heāll only be happy when weāve all left, Iāll dm you the details of the secret forum that we have all joined without him.3 points
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The only time we've had any relative success or looked like we had a discernible direction was when we appointed Karanka, reportedly had Peter Kenyon overseeing football operations in something similar to a director of football role and had Victor Orta as head of recruitment. Many of our signings were successful during that time and we achieved our goal of getting into the Premier League. Both here and at Leeds, Orta has found players that fit into the systems played by the club's manager. That's what we're missing. All of these roles seem to have fallen back into the hands of Neil Bausor.3 points
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Yes, and it's 1 season in 17 for Leeds. They've had foreign owners for 8 years now, and threw *** at the wall until it stuck. People forget just how many managers they were going through before a gamble finally paid off with Bielsa. Hardly an example of the wonders of foreign ownership.3 points
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I thought we deserved the point and I think a point against the most in form team in the country is a very good point. I think the point today would have been more appreciated by out fans had we not put on such a sh*t show v Bristol City? I think NML showed good signs. I thinK the poster who labelled him as a poor Ravel Morrison was being harsh and I feel when he fully up to speed his direct running will be very useful. I am hoping he does enough to earn a new contract as a free NML could be smart business. The poster who said Akpom did more in 10mins than Britt did 80mins is bang on3 points
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Older targetmen like Rickie Lambert, Daryl Murphy and Glenn Murray etc didnāt peak until their late 20ās to early thirties so I arenāt concerned about Wyke being 28 year old. Targetmen is a role that players just seem to peak a bit later than others for some reason. League One has consistently produced some excellent players, certainly strikers, so Wyke deserves respect for his high number of goals this season. Just because heās an ex-academy lad, it doesnāt diminish his achievements as he has made a great career for himself since leaving Boro. The majority of released and sold academy pl2 points
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@Changing Times Don't encourage. I'm fully on board with @Denzel Zanzibar getting kicked off the forum. His behaviour isn't acceptable on here, especially for a younger brother to look up to..... @Blanco Don't take him seriously mate. I've seen him get beat up by some children at a soft play centre š2 points
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Was that last word supposed to have an i instead of an a @Old Codger ššš2 points
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Better keepers out there that's all mate. I just realised while typing my post that anyone is better than butterfingers.2 points
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Well we arenāt a club that can take any kind of moral high ground in transfer deals after we appoint managers who get paid on both ends of transfer deals by agents. Only deal with their own agents to ensure they get cash. Falsely inflate prices to get themselves a bigger cut. One of our ex managers previous chairmanās refused to sanction a sale when they found out the replacements would make the manager a couple of million under the table.2 points
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I remember when football was a sport too, but itās not any more, itās an entertainment business, where games are played for the sake of TV schedules, currently in empty stadiums! Iād love a lot of things to go back to how they were in the 80ās but capitalism has destroyed everything itās touched. Iām happy to stick where we are as a team, I loathe the Premier League and VAR, but many want to get back up there and the only way I can see that happening is with some sort of ambition and a plan, which I fear the current owner lacks.2 points
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Swansea are 4th, their "long term strategy" is only a few years old, and I'm not sure it was deliberate, they got relegated after repeated poor managerial choices (what was Bob Bradley about?), had a complete fire sale and were expected to struggle in the bottom half of the table last season but snuck in to the play-offs against the odds after an excellent run. I spoke to Swansea fans who were genuinely fearful of a double relegation at the start of last season. Watford are 3rd, and they don't know the meaning of long term planning. I don't disagree that a long term plan is pref2 points
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Completely agree 100% with this. My concern is that simply having a Foreign owner may not the panacea that some appear to think its is. It might work and it might bring success but equally we could end up exactly where we are at present (Forest, Birmingham, Wednesday, Blackburn etc.) but with owners who are less committed to the Club than SG is and that means it could get worse, a lot worse.2 points
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I canāt believe people are using Chelsea and Manchester City as examples. Absolutely laughable. One in the heart of the wealthiest area of the country and the other in the countryās second city with half of a nearly 3m population to draw from. Weāre also in a different league to Leeds and Villa so thereās little use in comparing us to them. Leicester and Southampton are fairer comparisons in terms of size.2 points
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I haven't absolved him of any criticism. There are 24 teams in this league every season, every one of them wants to get promoted. Only 3 of them will succeed. I think people need to realise that it's not just down to ownership that we're not an established Premier League team. We've rarely struggled to compete financially in this league, the decision making can and should be questioned, but faceless foreign owners are just as prone to poor decisions as Gibson. Sheffield Wednesday are staring relegation in the face after abysmal decisions, and they still don't have a m2 points
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Iād rather we changed our style of play than signed a big target man to hoof the ball to.2 points
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All we need is to find a Sheikh willing to pose in a Boro scarf saying "Ų£ŁŲ§ Ų£ŲŲØ parmo ŁŁ Ł Ų«Ł". How difficult is to find one of them? I'm off down to the Bus Stop to see if there any hanging about waiting for the 263.2 points
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The problem with foreign owners is that in many cases it is a toy for them with no emotional commitment to the team or the area. Now there are of course some really nice ones but as in the example in China above they can just quit and leave the club to go under. There are around two workers a day dying in Qatar with the folly of the World Cup which sold its soul, personally I'd be very cautious about who would buy our club and what their commitment would be for it. Derby and Newcastle are openly up for grabs but the process isn't as convenient as the dream. It does work in some cases and2 points
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Villa aren't really a good example, are they? They were within hours of going out of business 2 years ago because their owners were that incompetent, they then got new owners who spent a fortune again to get promotion in massive breach of FFP. A huge gamble that only just paid off, they then stayed up last season because of faulty goalline technology. Neither are Leeds, their previous foreign owner was notoriously terrible and they've spent 1 season in the Premier League in the last 15 years, the bottom half of it after today's results. Their summer signings have largely been very ex2 points
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Leeds got there after 20yrs of suffering and borderline liquidation. And Villa nearly folded with two owners no one liked in Lerner and that Dr and then cheated they way out of a mess. Like I said it all depends on how much risk you are willing to take with a clubs future. There are good foreigners out there and if one comes to our club I would welcome him with open arms.2 points
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I would definitely have Hugill back next season if Warnock remains in charge. He was very harshly treated his time here as others have mentioned he was just as isolated as Negredo was. Target men ALWAYS need runners off them. His link up play was good, heās strong, can head and still scored a reasonable amount of goals considering how we played as a team.2 points
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I did not like him one bit when he was here BUT under pulis he was extrmeely isolated on his own. And In his defence he then went to have a very good season at QPR where he had runners in and around him. Which is what most target men need. The fact remains when Hugill plays regularly at this level (and you have bodies around him like you should and not play a 8.1.1 formation with him) then his record suggests he does well. Preston and QPR show that. He back up at Norwich to Pukki so wont judge him on that.2 points
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I agree we could be a much bigger and better club without him in charge. Equally we would be a much lesser and shi**er club if we was not in charge.2 points
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DZ I do not know if you are having issues at home, work or otherwise but of late you have been far more aggressive than usual and I simply can not allow you to respond in such a way towards another member of the forum purely for his opinion. There are many other ways you can reply and respond to matters you do not agree with but this time you are pushing the boundaries of decency. The swear filter does work but you intended to state what you have just done so. Give it some thought about how you have been on the forum and try and calm down. Please take this as a public warning th2 points
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Wyke and someone like Waghorn or the Bristol lad. If we stick with Warnock I want strikers he will use and use well. So two of them and then Akpom who may benefit from being alongside a target man. Thats assuming Fletch leaves.1 point
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Probably, I naively assumed that people wouldn't edit pictures minutes after the goal.1 point
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Because these discussions are always spurred on by people, and I don't just mean on here, specifically asking for a foreign takeover when they see another club taken over, regardless of who the takeover is by. Saw dozens of people saying it when Barnsley were taken over after their owner sadly became terminal (arguably not the best example as it's going very well for them right now). British owners aren't intrinsically better or worse than foreign owners, and foreign owners aren't intrinsically better or worse either. I've dove in to the thread late on, so I've not actually foll1 point
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People always say this, but who are we not competing with financially? Most players we miss out on, we miss out on because they chose another club over us. We infamously lost out on a lot of players to Villa a few seasons ago, but in every case we had matched their bids. Obviously we can't compete with a lot of Premier League clubs financially, but no Championship club can legitimately.1 point
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Yeah I'm not actually keen on Gibson to sell up myself, but him taking a step back and letting someone with real knowledge of football make those decisions. Basically become a silent owner, much like Smith at Norwich (except her half-time on pitch rallying cries). I'm only vocal today as a few people seem to equate foreign ownership with the end of the world or that it will 100% not work, but there are plenty of examples of where it has worked.1 point
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There's a similar post over on FMTTM. Rather than rewrite I'm just going to copy and paste my thoughts. My take on Boro world at the moment: 1. I've gone off Warnock this week. He is now willing to throw anyone - players, scouts, medics (Fletcher fitness) under the bus. Not nice to see and is not what an experienced manager anywhere should be doing. 2. Our tactics recently have been awful. We have decent footballers being asked to hoof it. Pointless. 3. Coaching. Why on earth has Warnock and his team not been able to coach simple skills like heading clearances? Aitor fixed that wit1 point
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That is absolute BS. There would be no club without Gibson. The stupid vilification of him is what has to stop.1 point
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Stop saying things like that! You're making me want to agree with you...and thats scary!1 point
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I really donāt think keeping changing the manager solves anything. Structurally we donāt seem to possess the professionalism needed. Look at the likes of Barnsley- currently above us. They appear better organised as a club. As supposedly one of the bigger Championship clubs it appears we are constantly playing catch-up when set against other clubs. I donāt think weāve been well run for many years. Transfer activity, developing youth players into first teamers , we seem impotent at really making a success. Players we have are generally overrated( exception being our strikers) . Life appear1 point
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Dreadful defending, what was the point in it? All humping each other in a line.1 point
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Be careful what you wish for. Ipswich fans hounded Mick McCarthy out of his job and celebrated him leaving like they been promoted. League 1 is now like a 2nd home. Arsenal fans hounded Wenger out of his job as top 4 was not good enough. Now they would snap your hands off for a Europa league spot. Birmingham fans hated the Gold&Sullivan ownership and wanted them out. They not come close to enjoying the success they had under them. Of course there are instances where fans demand for change has resulted in positive times but I am certainly not going to wish Gibson leaves1 point
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I'm in a strange position. I'm emigrating in a few years (Canada) to be with the missus. I have to finish university, wrap up a couple of on the job qualifications. I don't really have time for a season ticket but I also really want one because in a few years I won't be able to attend live games anymore.1 point
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By Redcar Rioja · Posted
The issue isn't playing out from the back, the issue is decision making on when, where and how.Ā If the opponents are closing, down, swarming and pressurising it can be effective by unlocking them and catching them up field however it is also far more likely to result in being bullied out of possession, putting us at risk or as we seen recently a poor ball to O'Brien leaving us stuffed. Having outlets making and creating space and time is crucial whether you play out from the back or go long. Simply hoofing it isn't the answer any more than playing a suicide ball to a player being rapidly closed down 20 yards out from our own goal. It's not the tactic that's at fault, it's the application and implementation of it which comes down to the skill, intelligence, awareness and ability of individuals. Chuba was great at holding the ball up and playing in team mates, we don't have that skill set this season and it's showed, having a Giles to be unleashed down the left hasn't been available this season, both were key to how we played last season. The loss of those outlets haven't helped us and those are just two examples. That said with the speed of Jones and ELL, playing it long can also be a serious threat to our opposition but neither tactic will work if players aren't looking up, alert and aware ofĀ their next pass/movement and to me that is the biggest difference between last season's passing it out from the back and this season. We passed out at speed and with cutting accuracy last season, this year we seem less confident, hesitant,Ā slow and have created more problems for ourselves on many occasions because of it.Ā The massive summer upheaval in personnel hasn't helped and confidence and belief won't have helped with the start to the season that ensued. I'm sure many of the new signings were less than convinced as we set that record poor start statistic. Over timeĀ it's improved but nowhere close to our ability to pass out that we had last season, hence the frustrations and discussions. -
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By TeaCider24 · Posted
I'd quite happily take a draw now, it keeps them down, keeps the unbeaten run going and keeps things very interesting in the promotion race. -
By Redcar Rioja · Posted
What team would you pick? Dieng Dijksteel VDB Clarke Jones Howson O'Brien Engel Azaz ELL Silvera Based purely upon who has been fit enough to be starting or on the bench recently. With his contract situation I can't see Paddy being risked unless he is totally match ready plusĀ the Player himself wouldn't want to risk injury, bit of a gamble for me. What's your favourite thing about Leeds? Car showrooms, I have bought quite a few Cars from dealers in and around Leeds. What are the odds on Bamford cheating yet again? I'd be disappointed if he did but with the stakes so high for Leeds I guess if he see's an opportunity he'll go down quicker than Pally F*nny. Will we derail their promotion push even further? I suspect another draw, Leeds have been spluttering so we could take them but without Ayling our supply line is severely restricted (never thought I'd be thinking let alone saying that when we signed him). Do we want them in the Championship next season is maybe another way to approach the game? -
I totally forgot he returned to squad and then dropped out. Yeah in that case he on bench -at best.
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