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  1. This one is (as far as I can tell) is basically because they've priced the 16-24 year old market out of watching their teams legally. So they look at their data and see no one in that age bracket is watching anymore, when in reality they're all still watching just on illegal streams because they can't afford anything else!
    7 points
  2. All 12 teams should be banned from European competition for at least two years along with a hefty fine that goes directly into grassroots football. It won't happen in all likelihood, but that's the outcome I'm hoping to see.
    5 points
  3. Thats exactly what it is, if you are negotiating with someone you need to be in a strong enough position to walk away and move onto an alternative. I think this proposal is just that at the moment, these big European clubs will be prepared to start this alternative format if they can get away with it but I think the ultimate goal is to have more power and control within the current structure. And obviously more share of the financial pie as well. They are acting like a cartel and its up to the governing bodies and other clubs to make sure they don't get away with it. I made a
    5 points
  4. Pep making about as strong a statement against it as we've seen from the clubs involved, right now:
    4 points
  5. I think to be honest, a lot of people involved at those clubs will be taking in as much information as possible, seeing how things play out for a bit longer, before deciding how they want to respond. They're employees of these clubs first and foremost and need to be careful how they approach something that genuinely might just go away without their input. Every one of them that comes out and condemns it in any way is great, Milner last night for example did it during his interview and his post match tweet about qualifying for the CL. But I'm slightly hesitant to say that Tuchel, for examp
    4 points
  6. I saw some of it, yeah. The man is also the chairman of the ESL as it stands, it's not particularly surprising. I didn't see an ounce of credit in his theory that this would save football. He said without the ESL, football would end by 2024, which is absolute madness. I don't know how he has the gall to say football federations and associations are simply scaremongering when he comes out with crap like that. Goes on about poor ickle Real Madrid with their money problems too, I'd like to see him face up to a Bury fan with that crap.
    4 points
  7. People being thankful for Steve Gibson with this ESL launching. Wasn't he fully in support of giving the top 6 clubs all the power when he was all pally with Parry about a breakaway league? He's propsing the exact same thing as the big 6 to clubs further down the league and football pyramid?
    4 points
  8. I'm desperate for us to win this, but yeah, a Rotherham win would put them a point behind Derby with 2 games in hand, they could do it. Derby and Sheffield Wednesday both going down would be a beautiful karmic punishment to terrible owners.
    3 points
  9. They should be made to have Warnock, Monk and Strachan as their managers for a couple of years.
    3 points
  10. Chelsea are apparently submitting documentation to withdraw from the ESL. Sanity might yet reign. Good on the Chelsea fans for keeping up the pressure.
    3 points
  11. Its hard to know fully what the consequences of something like that would be. The Premier league product without the big 6 would not be as desirable to TV companies especially overseas, there's no doubt about that. Obviously then the income of every other club would drop and big name players would move on. Commercially it would probably be a bad idea but wouldn't it be great if sporting competition and integrity were put above that.
    3 points
  12. It’s a Wednesday game and today is only Tuesday!
    3 points
  13. The arrogance of these owners is incredible. They assume that if they ask the fans to jump, they'll say "how high?"... If they ask the fans to watch their new league, they'll say "what channel?", If they ask the fans to pay more of their hard earned money for it, they'll say "how much?"... They assume we watch football for entertainment. And that we want more of it. We don't follow football for entertainment. We follow it because... it's just what we do. How often do you feel "entertained" at a football match or watching your team on TV? Occasionally at best. And yet here we still are...
    2 points
  14. Sorry but the damage has been done. Chelsea and Man City both tried to pull a fast one on their supporters, now they're backing down. At least have the courage of your conviction. All 6 teams should be heavily punished by the FA. Massive fines/points deductions, whatever it takes to ensure they don't try this again.
    2 points
  15. Well it killed a few periods of boredom and allowed us to work off some righteous indignation about the evils of modern football. 😁
    2 points
  16. Well what a waste of energy that was.
    2 points
  17. Very disappointed MFC have not made a statement. We might never be a 'small town in Europe' again but I'll be gutted if we don't fight for the right for someone else to be. All 86 clubs are in this together. We need to protect our national sport and community clubs from foreign billionaire parasites while we still can.
    2 points
  18. Must admit, the giant outdoor soft play in the stadiums sounds fun!
    2 points
  19. Warnock may entertain today, but you will be sadly disappointed if you are expecting a game of football as well... last time I looked, it kicks off tomorrow at 6pm 🙂
    2 points
  20. Football being played in empty Stadiums has probably confirmed to the owners that fans are simply an irrelevance as the broadcasting rights and sponsorship deals still came flooding in. Gate money is important but with the potential riches for these Clubs it pales almost into insignificance. I'm guessing these Clubs may rake in say £60M from Season ticket sales but they are now talking Billions. Next they will see the rules changing to make handball only illegal in the 18 yard box and offside scrapped as it disrupts the flow and results in less goals. The actual goals themselves will be m
    2 points
  21. Seems likely. His interview this evening was batshit crazy. He sounded like he had more than a screw loose
    2 points
  22. Sounds like this could have been the tipping point that convinced them all to back out. FA told them they'd be kicked out of all domestic comps and the Government was willing to change laws to make it happen.
    1 point
  23. So now what happens? Do we go back to normal? Are we back to talking about 'the greatest league in the world' every week? Are we happy that foreign billionaires are destroying the identities of our clubs? Are we happy with the diving and cheating that happens every game? Are we happy with VAR? Are we happy that working class fans are being priced out of the game? Are we happy with corrupt organisations running the game? This could be a catalyst for things to change in football but I bet things will quickly go back to normal.
    1 point
  24. So you reckon Bettinelli will be back in goal tomorrow?
    1 point
  25. It's okay, I feel the same way. I hope Rotherham beat us tomorrow night. We have nothing to play for, and I'd much rather Derby go down than them. In fact make it blatantly obvious we're throwing the game, really *** that cheating *** Mel Morris off 🙂
    1 point
  26. Seriously? No really, seriously? This is the take you're going with?
    1 point
  27. It's completely different. He's the manager, fans on social media are just that. There's a world of difference between how their comments will be taken.
    1 point
  28. They don't seem to be playing like it.
    1 point
  29. Well if you have an online account, the official website should be fine. https://www.skysports.com/watch/sky-sports-football
    1 point
  30. Thats the million dollar question, isn't it? There does seem to be a fair amount of double-speak coming from the manager. On the one hand he says he's happy with the majority of the players, but then says we're lacking quality after matches (usually when we lose). Are they showing well in training, but then playing like donkeys on game day? Some games it looks like they don't do any training at all. Players usually perform well when they're happy with the management, coaching and how they are being asked to play. My own theory is that there is a fair amount of disconte
    1 point
  31. I'm finding it quite heartening seeing the number of senior, respected individuals coming out against the ESL...including 2 managers of our selected 6 teams (so far). Don't know how much ice it will cut with those driving the proposal (if any), but the sheer amount of opposition from all quarters must at least have them worried. They must know they are very much in the minority, if nothing else.
    1 point
  32. This isn't true. He said he hasn't had time to digest it and to be fair to him, the dust has barely settled at all in our own discussions about it. I've been involved in active talks about this since it broke, on here, with my colleagues, with fellow people in my industry and it's still going on right now. It's mentally exhausting being part of it. But still, he did make quite a strong statement about the idea of it regardless of him saying he hadn't seen it as a whole. https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-warnock-european-super-league-20424543
    1 point
  33. I can't imagine why. I mean, surely they know they can count on all those "fans of the future" to throw their support and money at the ESL? 😁 Or possibly they just found out that what Smogzilla & Duvel said is correct - that the whole thing was a charade, aimed at extorting more money and control? I hope this is the case. But even so, the clubs (or their owners at least) will always now be tainted for their involvement.
    1 point
  34. A couple of the Big 6 from England are apparently getting cold feet and are accusing Liverpool & Man U of "lying to them" Have to imagine it's Chelsea and City, who only joined the whole thing cause of FOMO in the first place!
    1 point
  35. I was a fan of Warnock. Still am really, but have to admit the recent attitude when there was like 10 games left and all to play for was shocking. It's like he gave up way too early. You fight right to the end, not harp on about playing youth lads to give them a run out. Wound me up a bit that
    1 point
  36. I think it is partly this, but also partly seeing if they could if that makes sense. If the breakaway comes to fruition, great that suits them. If it doesn't, but they force UEFA into more changes that suit those clubs, great. In a horrible way it is a bit win/win for them, the only caveat to that is if all the governing bodies come together and punish them at this stage. Which might potentially drive them to can the idea completely or drive them to push it through anyway.
    1 point
  37. 🔴 "I can't see us beating anyone at the minute, we don't take any of our chances and keep making stupid mistakes. It's been terrible for the past four months." The master motivator is at it again. Honestly if woodgate or karanka or pulis came out with half the stuff he does they'd be hounded out of the club by the entire fan base. It's incredible what he keeps getting away with.
    1 point
  38. Reminded me of Sepp Blatter when he tried to deny there was any corruption at FIFA. Pretty much everything he said was a blatant and easily refutable lie. "Saving football", "fans losing interest", "too many boring matches". All utter ***. Well the CL has more than a few boring matches, but thats UEFA's fault for continually expanding it so there are more and more minnows taking part, who are at best cannon fodder for the big clubs. Basically what it comes down to is Real Madrid and a few other "big" clubs that have got themselves into serious financial strife need bailing out.
    1 point
  39. Young Scouser in 2030: "Dad, did people used to go and watch Liverpool Galaxy playing, rather than just seeing it on telly?" Dad [wearing Tranmere Rovers scarf]: "Aye, son, they did. And they used to play right here in Liverpool. Remember that giant outdoor soft play centre we went to last year? In there." Son: "Not in Singapore, then?" Dad [tear rolling down his cheek]: "No, son. And they weren't managed by the third cousin of a Saudi sheikh back then, either. They had a manager who'd actually played the game himself." Son: "That's so weird. Next you'll be telling me games
    1 point
  40. If anyone wants a rundown, this reddit thread is updating with his quotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/mubvcb/florentino_perez_interview_in_el_chiringuito_de/?sort=top
    1 point
  41. So happy that MNF has spent virtually the entirety of the programming condemning the very idea of the ESL. So impressed by James Milner having the strength, whilst captaining Liverpool, to come out against it in his post match interview.
    1 point
  42. I agree, but I think the timing makes sense, if he wins the league cup at the weekend and they sack him after that it leaves them open to an unfair dismissal case, similar to the one with Conte, they brought him in to win a trophy, they can't then argue he was a failure if they were to win it while he was still at the club.
    1 point
  43. I don't think it's supposed to be a secret but the three cliquey lot causing disruption are Warnock, Blackwell and Jepson.
    1 point
  44. Well "more valid" in their eyes means "spend more money". They're just businessmen being businessmen...they follow the money and to hell with anything else. They understand nothing about football, or the history, tradition or heritage of the clubs they've bought. All they see are dollar signs. Club badges are just marketable brands. This has been going on for quite a while, albeit at a lower level, pretty much since the PL was created, but as Wilson said, its good to finally see the naked greed of these people thrust into the limelight. If any fans had any lingering doubts
    1 point
  45. Of all the offensive aspects of this proposal, it's the use of the phrase "legacy fans" that really makes bile creep up my throat. As if Qatari and Chinese subscribers to ESL+ TV will be more valid than people who actually support(ed) the clubs.
    1 point
  46. I don't know whether you've misunderstood my post or whether I have made my point very well, but let me make one thing clear. I don't think anything about this proposal is good, its a disgrace and I'd be over the moon if the 6 of them were turfed out for good. What I was saying is that all this moral outrage should have been happening years ago. The game that most of us grew up loving has been gradually eroded over the last few decades. It isn't about the fans or sporting integrity at the top, its about pure greed and has been for years. Just because the current system is better th
    1 point
  47. If those are legit it demonstrates a breathtaking level of arrogance...not to mention confidence that the SL will go ahead. Also shows Americans really don't get "soccer". 🙄
    1 point
  48. What currently exists is an imbalance, it's an imperfect system that is weighted in favour of clubs with more wealth who are more willing and able to capitalise and increase that wealth. But the system is still there, the possibility is still there for someone to challenge that, even if it requires investment to do so. 10 years ago, Leicester were in the same position we were, mid-table mediocrity in the Championship. Where are they now? I'm not saying we will end up there by any means but someone in our position could in 10 years be doing what Leicester are doing now with the right investment
    1 point
  49. Thing is, we've heard time and time again throughout his stay here how popular and important Assombalonga has been in the changing room. He's a popular figure within the squad. You also hear nothing but good reports about Fletcher... Until Warnock takes charge. I've never liked Warnock as a person. I've defended him a little on here for the work he's done - especially with players like Dijksteel and Bola. But for a considerable time now performances have been substandard, tactics and team selections have been baffling, and some of our most influential players have been hounded in public.
    1 point

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