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  1. It's been really interesting seeing people's views on this. I personally have no love for Derby as a club or a fanbase but I do recognize that they are one. I have no desire to see them go out of business as ultimately the fans will suffer. However Derby have cheated. They knew they were and what's more they seemed to take a great pleasure in telling people at the time. I do not personally think they should be able to write off debts to hmrc or anyone and still retain their league status.
    9 points
  2. I keep logging in to check on the transfer thread...but then I remember that we have shopped early. I love competence...but it's so less exciting.
    8 points
  3. Derby forum has thrown up these bits of gold:
    7 points
  4. Anyone who's worked with a businessman like Gibson knows there's two options now: 1) Offer him a face-saving option where the optics show he backed down but still 'wins.' Of course, this would mean Derby need to swallow their pride and wash it down with a helping of humble pie. They'll also have to give him some costs but they'll survive. More than money, Gibson wants acknowledgement he is right. After Morris tried to humiliate him, this was always coming. 2) Back him into a corner and play a game of chicken with the future of the club. Cross your fingers he gives in to your social m
    7 points
  5. The whole situation stinks right now, I'm just very suspicious about their admins. Hoping Gibson doesn't back down, and that they compromise. I want them as a functioning club in League One.
    6 points
  6. and it's not a betting company!!!
    6 points
  7. Which also would mean, unless I'm mistaken, there's no need for us to solve the claim situation by February. Quantuma getting the violins out, trying to damage us and our claims with public consensus whilst also having a plan that avoids them having to sell their players and give them a chance of remaining a Championship club and a better prospect for any buyer. Get stuffed.
    6 points
  8. So if I have this right all the Derby fans are asking for is for Gibson to drop his claims, HMRC to cut their tax bill by tens of millions of pounds, exit administration without selling any players and if they just get these small concessions we could all have played our part in #SaveDerbyCounty? To my knowledge every other club in their situation has had two options be it Portsmouth, Bury, Bolton or Wigan and here are those two options: Option 1: Sell your assets and pay your creditors allowing Administrators time to find a new owner. Option 2: Cease to exist. Why do Derby
    5 points
  9. Maybe Mel could offer Steve Pride Park as full and final settlement? Imagine DCFC surviving but SG being their Landlord, there would be a meltdown in the Peak District. Worse still if they do survive under that scenario and Ashley is the new owner they will be screaming conspiracy especially when Steve Gibson replaces the Steve Bloomer Statue with one of himself.
    5 points
  10. How would it not be genuine? It's from the official MFC twitter account and links to our official website?
    5 points
  11. Bit late to the party BU 😂
    5 points
  12. Okay, I take back quite a lot of what I've said about Steve Gibson in the past. That statement is absolute 🔥, as the kids would put it. And of course Derby fans aren't happy, they've been lied to by their ex-owner and the administrators, who have actually made their situation even worse.
    5 points
  13. I think he's busy for the foreseeable, raiding EFL and MFC offices
    5 points
  14. I wasn’t aware of that issue with St Johns, well done the Rams Massive, you never know when you will need the help of St John folk. Thats massively improved my opinion of their fans and lowered my views on MM and the administrators. You don’t not pay St John.
    5 points
  15. Just this, forget about buying players concentrate on paying your tax bill, as don’t forget that money is owed to the British public and would pay for hundreds of new nurses, (or six NHS diversity managers 😆).
    5 points
  16. Well if Derby get a tax discount every club in the country should ask HRMC if they too can get a discount on their taxes. You should never give discounts on taxes as it blatantly opens up for shady people to speculate in it - like Mel Morris.
    5 points
  17. New one for the Derby/Quantuma kool-aid drinkers
    4 points
  18. Come Deadline Day and Derby are still in this mess, it will be like the end of that Apprentice task where they are literally chasing people down selling them £10's worth of product for 50p
    4 points
  19. "your failure to conclude what should have been a relatively simple task of bringing Derby County out of administration" uhh, not pulling any punches there 🙂
    4 points
  20. Safe to say that the EFL is not impressed by the administrators at all. What the hell have they been doing for all this time? They haven't resolved any issues, they've managed to scare away one buyer by dragging their feet and haven't brought any funds into the club by offloading sellable assets. They are making a mockery of the EFL.
    4 points
  21. That's massive news, changes things fundamentally for a lot of top clubs. Chelsea and the like especially.
    4 points
  22. Does anyone know a retired CID bloke who would perhaps like to look into it?
    4 points
  23. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that MM actually owns Quantuma through one of his shell companies. Then man is a crook without morals. But i suppose the Derby fans can start a crowdfunding to pay the HMRC.
    4 points
  24. and yet Gibson is the bad guy in this...
    4 points
  25. That actually looks about as good as a sponsor on a shirt can do in my opinion. Nice change from the great green eyesores of the past.
    4 points
  26. First thing I'd do if we went up is spend £15-20 million on a class keeper and another £5-10 on a number 2 keeper. We really shot ourselves in the foot with the keeper situation last time
    3 points
  27. The championship is going to be more and more used as a glorified pump and dump scheme. A line needs to be drawn in the sand of these continued efforts of gambling an entire footy club on immense gambles of wild accounting practises and breaching FFP to pump clubs into the prem and then hope to flog it to other buyers later on. Why the *** should Gibson just roll over and accept this crap when it screws us over and it explodes for those clubs where it fails. If an example isn't made it'll keep on happening The EFL nor the politicians want it to end as they see it as drawing i
    3 points
  28. I cannot understand how they're not getting pressed on this. They think they can stay up by keeping the players - that's why they're so desparate to paint MFC and WW as the one and only obstacle.
    3 points
  29. Has anyone ever seen a team in administration only sell 1 bit part player for a total of £30k, yet complain that others are causing them financial issues and will be the cause of their liquidation? Lawrence, Sibley, Buchanan, Bielik, Knight and Jozwiak more than cover the money they need to reach the summer. Wonder why they're not interested in selling them...
    3 points
  30. Absolutely deluded.
    3 points
  31. Disgusting behaviour. I hope the club take action against him as well. Even though he is on loan, he is still representing us and it is not behaviour I want to see from one of our players.
    3 points
  32. The dirty get, why would it even cross his mind to do that?
    3 points
  33. In other words "shut up and let us paint you as the bad guy"
    3 points
  34. But the guy on that Derby forum had made observations after 40 years checking car parking tickets?
    3 points
  35. Only in the Southern Hemisphere? 🤨🤔
    3 points
  36. Funny I was thinking along those lines Borodane. MM appoints this company as administrators and they use the same diversionary tactics and disinformation as MM did, hmmmhh strange!
    3 points
  37. I can always make things up! Oh CT's loan period has expired and should return later on!
    3 points
  38. The hilarious thing on the DCFC forums is that our legal bid is both completely frivolous and will be thrown out in a minute and at the same time the key thing that is holding up any bidders from submitting a bid... there's no sense that both things can't be true
    3 points
  39. Derby's plight is one of design rather than ineptitude, they chose to deliberately live beyond their means without regard for the Club, Fans or competition. Whilst I know a few Derby fans and they are proud of their club as we are of ours, I haven't reached out to get their feeling on the matter just in case they've bought into this bull and would rather remember them as football fans as opposed to these delusional characters, refusing to pay the piper, or anyone else for that matter.
    3 points
  40. 3 points
  41. I seriously doubt if he ever resolved any cases with that mindset. This is the guilty party your honour, we want you to set them free and charge the constable that caught them red handed instead 😃
    3 points
  42. It's hilarious that he openly accepts that they cheated, but then immediately pivots towards the idea that they're victims and the punishments were unfair.
    3 points
  43. If they survive all well and good, but they need to acknowledge as a club what they've tried to do and pay their bills, especially to the HMRC as that effects everyone, football fan or not.
    3 points
  44. The admins appear to be no less bellend-y than Mel Morris...
    3 points
  45. I don’t see how it could be resolved without either a decision on the filed cases or we and WW withdraw but Derby still need to prove they have the financial backing to finish the season by Feb 1st. Of course there will be local parties vocally joining the arguments because it’s a platform and opportunity for gaining electoral votes, nothing else. Derby cheated therefore they must be held accountable and the EFL must stringently enforce its rules.
    3 points

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