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  1. 7 points
    i mean if u look at our form i think we have turned a corner some what. 1 defeat in 5 and it was away to top of the league leeds. weve won 2 games after no win in 10 , were scoring goals and were now 4 points clear of the drop. and to top it off weve done this while half the squad has been out injured or ill. a bare bones boro squad has show the fight and determination thats been lacking all season, for me thats grounds for optimism
  2. 6 points
    Hi, Apologies for the intrusion. I covered an U23 match of yours against Newcastle back in November, and planned to do so next time you played down south and I was nearby. I went to the match against Crystal Palace today, which 'Boro absolutely dominated, and put together this match report with photos. https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2019/12/02/crystal-palace-u23/ Hope it's of interest to some. Regards, GRTourist
  3. 6 points
    For me, I've watched us play a fair few games this year and theres been a sprinkling of us looking good. It's not constant and it's in flashes. However, what worries me the most is that we just didnt even muster any real chances throughout the game. That's a worry as its typical of most of our games this season, as shown with the low shots and conversion stats. I still cant quite fathom what type of team we are. Do we defend deep and hit them on the break? Do we play with the infamous Woodgate high press? What exactly is our approach to games? We dont keep the ball well. That's a worry. Even in periods today where Leeds were at us and even the Hull game, *** me, just pass the ball around and make Leeds work for it. We gave them the ball back so many times but for no purpose? I just dont get it. Its amateurish, it really is. It's going to get worse before it gets better, that's for sure. Randolph will leave and if you're a Boro player now, why on earth would you sign an extended contract to stay? I hate it. I honestly hate it so much. It's like watching your house burn down and being powerless to stop it whilst Woodgate tries to blunder about and put it out whilst Gibson controls the water. No game plan, no tactics, no possession, no shots and no enjoyment. We currently win 1 game in 6. Have the 5th worst goal difference in the league. It's amazing we're not in the bottom 3.
  4. 6 points
    We should have been out of sight in that game had it not been for Barnsleys keeper pulling off heroics, what are you talking about "undeserved" and Barnsley should feel "robbed". We were far better that 2nd half.
  5. 5 points
    I don't have a soft spot for him. I wasn't convinced when we bought him unlike most on here and I rated Bamford as the better player as I also said repeatedly on the forum, preferring to keep him and sell Assombalonga if I had a choice. But he is the best we have right now and it's not even close. We have a big problem with goal scoring within the rest of the team but he's the one taking the flak for that as well, which is just nonsense. The other players aren't missing chances because of anything he does. Wing and McNair have had almost the same number of shots as Assombalonga this season. Assombalonga's shots and chances are better (closer to the goal) than either of them of course so quite rightly he will be expected to score more goals. But as a team we have the worst goal scoring record in the league and Assombalonga is the joint 9th highest scorer in the Championship so how is that his fault? Look at the league table - West Brom's top scorer has 6 goals, Swansea's top scorer has 6 goals, Bristol City's top scorer has 6 goals, Leeds top scorer has 5 goals. There are plenty of teams who don't have a single player who has scored 6 or more goals this season, we do but it's his fault that we're struggling? I have no idea what you mean by needless runs. It's a strange thing that some people criticise the bloke for not working hard enough and now you appear to be saying he works too hard? He does make runs behind the defence, he does it repeatedly and doesn't get the ball. Because he's playing up front on his own mostly he is also having to play the role of target man as well, coming short to try and get on the ball, which clearly doesn't suit him as you say. So he's effectively trying to be two different players and I think he's caught somewhere in between. He doesn't spread the play well enough and he does dwell on the ball, I completely agree with that. These things do my head in because it really should be an easy thing to fix and it hasn't been done by now, which either means they aren't working on it or he's just not improving that aspect of his game. I don't think he's a particular intelligent footballer, which might have something to do with it. He's missed some chances he should have scored this season but then I bet every player in the league has done the same. It's standing out more for us because nobody else is contributing anything that's why he has scored as many goals as everyone else. A few more stats that are worth noting; we have the 2nd highest number of shots outside the penalty area and I believe the 3rd lowest inside the penalty area. In other words, we're taking a lot of longer shots and we aren't scoring from them. It's not Assombalonga who is doing that. I suppose what I'm saying is criticise him for the things that he is responsible for rather than placing all of the failings of the team on his shoulders. He should be doing better this season, but all of them should be, and our goal scoring issues are a team wide problem, not just his.
  6. 4 points
    If we can afford Hughton we can afford Karanka. I don't care about the dangers of nostalgia, just give me that beautiful man back.
  7. 4 points
    They could send up their ladies team and get through
  8. 4 points
    Take off those rose tinted glasses lad, they've torn us apart. When they kick it up a notch in the second half they'll put a few more past us most likely.
  9. 4 points
    You should have let him travel up tonight and get even more radged when he realised the game was tomorrow, it would be hilarious 😀 - I've done the travelling all over watching Boro, you don't get a medal for it, you just do it because you want to do it. It also doesn't make you any different to any other Boro fan. - We do have an inexperienced management team although some might suggest the word that you're really looking for is cheap. There's not a great deal of evidence to suggest that they are learning as they go, which is probably why we've only won 2 out of 17 games this season, haven't won in the last 10 games and haven't won since the middle of September. - Gibson was putting whatever money he was into his own business. That's what you do when you run it at a massive loss, you have to fund the shortfall. The entire reason there were financial issues was because he allowed the club to overspend and did so in such a way as to create long term problems. If you keep making *** poor decisions then it's right that it costs you rather than other people although as it happens it did cost us other people as well. - Hardly any of our players are making a step up from our youth set up or from lower leagues. Randolph, Johnson, Fry, Ayala, Howson, Dijksteel, Wing, McNair, Tavernier, Fletcher (Clayton 45), Assombalonga. That was our team on Sunday. It's not inexperienced or full of lower league players and people need to stop using this as an excuse. - I'm a Boro fan and that means I'll be a Boro fan next season regardless of which division we're in but I'm buggered if I'm going to be happy with a team that can barely win a game. Just like you I've seen that before and it usually ends in relegation and there's no reason to just go along with that as though it's ok.
  10. 4 points
    Good 40 minutes, granted. That second half was as absolutely horrid. Yes I know we were down to ten men, but the game against Fulham showed that you can still play with 10 men and look ok going forward and defensively. But dear me our tactics when going down to ten men we may as well have just said to Hull "here you go lads have a go" sparse attacks and spent most of the game camped in our half and box and honestly 5 mins in you could see precisely what the result was going to be. Johnson was absolutely stupid, but Woodgate was just as stupid with the tactics in the second half.
  11. 3 points
    Wow. Great point. totally unexpected. Nice one. Keep going. We are only 13 points from a play off spot with half the season left. Onward and upward. C'mon Boro.
  12. 3 points
    It's for mental health awareness - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/02/fa-cup-third-round-delayed-minute-mental-health-awareness
  13. 3 points
    I know the club have the gazette by the balls but oh my god. ‘It’s no use crying over spilled milk’. What a total lack of respect from the Gazette, no journalist can wash their hands with this degree of manipulation. Fans are frustrated with the ineptitude at the top of the club. Yes, the club seems to be trying to right those wrongs, but the same people remain in charge and have given fans little faith they have the knowledge to turn it around. As far as most fans are concerned, the milk continues to spill. This article rebuffs all the subsidiary concerns fans have whilst completely failing to acknowledge the problem that underlies them: the poor decisions made by people at the top of the club who remain in place.
  14. 3 points
    How can being relegated be better than not being relegated? I'll take 'just staying up' right now. Our last two relegations have turned out brilliantly. Warnock has got a team promoted in the last two years and almost kept them up too - harsh in my opinion to compare to Pulis who failed in direct competition with a vastly superior budget. I don't think anyone has ever dreamt of seeing Warnock as their team's manager... but would take him over the pure embarrassing ineptitude getting served up right now. If Woody keeps up it will be through blind luck of there somehow being three poorer teams.
  15. 3 points
    There is one person to blame and that is Steve Gibson. He's taken his eye off the ball. He's lost interest in MFC. He's preoccupied with supporting his 'mates' in the Tory Party to the detriment of MFC. RIP Boro
  16. 3 points
    The current predicament says a lot more about Gibson than it does Woodgate.
  17. 3 points
    Anyone who thinks Johnson's sending off was a yellow needs their head examining.
  18. 3 points
    Uwe is pretty sneaky. You've got to keep a close eye on that one 🧐
  19. 2 points
  20. 2 points
    The City ground as never been a very happy hunting ground for us, we miss too many clear cut chances, I'll go 2-0 Forest with Lewis Grabban showing our boys how its done.
  21. 2 points
    I will post negative shi#e before every match if we end up like today 😷 UP THE BORO
  22. 2 points
    It's probably because we can't afford young players that are actually getting gametime and we're left with older has-beens that can't get into the matchday squads in lower prem teams. It'll be more Cranies than Gastons.
  23. 2 points
    Ohhh, now that would be an interesting move!
  24. 2 points
    Yet we were all happy to play at the Cellnet Riverside Stadium, wearing Cellnet-branded replica shirts. And now we're sponsored by a gambling company - the same firm sponsoring five other clubs in our league alone. I find that far more morally repugnant than the prospect of being owned by an energy drink brand. I haven't bought a Boro replica shirt for a decade, because I'm not willing to advertise gambling firms or pawnbrokers as I walk around. Steve Gibson is very unusual in not using his ownership of the club to promote other businesses he owns. Apart from Rockliffe ads on the trackside boards, I'm struggling to think of anything - there's certainly no Bulkhaul flags flying on the East Stand. Other rich owners take a different approach, which is why Arsenal play at the Emirates and Man City play at the Etihad. Progress comes as a price. Would you rather be a middling Championship club sponsored by pawnbrokers and gambling firms, or an established Premier League club sponsored by a drinks firm?
  25. 2 points
    Can we open a new thread: Worst transfer window of the decade?
  26. 2 points
    Worrying that Pears is likely to continue in goal once Randolph is sold in January. He was absolutely woeful today, cost 2 goals that any professional keeper would have saved. Not helping a defence that already has zero confidence.
  27. 2 points
    You can take off an attacker when down to ten men and replace him with a more defensive player but you cannot just desert three quarters of the pitch and set up camp on the twenty yard line. What we failed to do was cover our wide areas which allowed them to get behind us with crosses time and time again Now that could be down to Woodgate or the players but it certainly is not the way to set up with ten men and we paid the inevitable price, schoolboy coaching stuff this !
  28. 2 points
    We need to stop hoofing it and try to just keep the ball in their half. Even if we're not going forward with it, we just need to keep possession.
  29. 2 points
    Whilst "only needing" one point is sufficient to get us out of the bottom 3 I hope that the players see this as a "must win" game because it is, thankfully others above us are having serious troubles of their own but we are still in deep trouble ourselves. Nothing less is simply good enough and only wins breed confidence. Massive game
  30. 2 points
    With all the different things taken into perspective Denmark will be in a group with Belgium from the top group, Russia from the second group and a team from the bottom group. Not too bad, and a decent chance of finishing second behind Belgium, unless we rise to the occasion, play a perfect game and beat the belgians. But a minimum of two home games in a finals is historic and a massive event for Denmark. Really looking forward to it. It'll be a red and white Copenhagen thats for sure.
  31. 2 points
    I won't worry till the nun starts playing the guitar
  32. 1 point
  33. 1 point
    I only went to school 7 years. 1st grade, 2nd grade, 3rd grade, 3rd, grade, 3rd, grade 3rd, grade and 3rd grade ...
  34. 1 point
    Oh yeah, best debuts. I suppose Ravanelli has to be up there with a hat-trick. I also seem to remember Schwarzer in that same season having a good game in the first leg of the League Cup semi final at Stockport. Pretty big game to make your debut in and the conditions were bad.
  35. 1 point
    3 players but we are hoping to also ship on either fry(relucant to leave) Randolph or Britt.
  36. 1 point
    He did, he was bombing forward and beating his man, when he made mistakes and lost the ball he would get back in the tackle quick to win it back. Still got a bit to learn defensively but was refreshing to see some one performing like that. His passing and crossing was very good too.
  37. 1 point
    Well wipe my bottom with a baby wipe, who would have thought that! Fair play to anyone having Saville as fgs in this game
  38. 1 point
  39. 1 point
    Have to hope Spurs put out a weakened side or we'll be ripped to shreds.😱 On the plus side, not going out to a lower league side.
  40. 1 point
    STAMPEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  41. 1 point
    This seems to keep coming up. So I'm just going to copy what I posted in summer 2018 about it. Below is taken from our accounts for the 2016/17 season. Our prem season. "Turnover: £121,392,000 Total Wages: £64,943,000 (That is all staff, not just players and coaches). 53.5% of our turnover was swallowed up by wages. This is before adding on top any transfer fees. It is also before any admin expense and additional running costs. Looking at that years accounts, we pretty much broke even, we did make a very small profit. But we didn't come out of the Prem on a big pile of money." Of a revenue of £120m we only made £10m that year. So we effectively spent £110m of our £120m. Our promotion season we were close to making a loss of £30m. The bit you mentioned (in bold) is just outright wrong, and that isn't a dig by the way. It is just factually incorrect.
  42. 1 point
    Well what is there to say about that? That game was the story of Middlesbrough's season in a nutshell. Leeds didn't even need to break out of first gear they just turned up and sliced through our defence and tore us to pieces. The team sheet before the games show the state our club is now in, relying on untested youth and league 1 players and praying that they will come good, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Steve Gibsons continuing failures and inadequacies are coming home to roost every time and he seems perfectly accepting of our current plight. I don't blame Woodgate for our thin squad, but I blame him for the poor tactics. That criticism is much more than just this game, hell it's not even the first time an opposition has scored 4 past us this season. Honestly I've never felt so numb and disinterested about Boro, honestly I feel more interested in my local club. 2 draws against mediocre opposition convinced fans we were ok and turned the corner. Christ man.
  43. 1 point
    Does anyone else hear a certain piece of music and just tear up? This sounds ridiculous but there's a Ford Focus advert on at the moment with a brief classical sounding piece in it. Turns out it's by the utterly fantastic British musical collective The Cinematic Orchestra, two pieces called "Arrival of The Birds" and "The Transformation" originally written for a Disney documentary about flamingos of all things!
  44. 1 point
    Age catch’s up with us all. If I manage a night out these days I swear after three downed pints I spend more time at the urinal then the bar. In fact I think I pass more than I down. I also think there are more chemicals in beer judging by my lasting hangovers
  45. 1 point
    Lucky not to concede a penalty there.
  46. 1 point
    A complete different middlesbrough!!
  47. 1 point
    Actually its on tele isnt it.....there may be some long delays at the crossing today...
  48. 1 point
    Backdoor it is. Well done Denmark. Congrats @SmogDane and @Borodane
  49. 1 point
    Boro this day 18th November 1972 My 2nd ever away Boro game when my dad took me & his ICI work colleague to the Sheffield Wednesday game, my previous away game was Boro's last away game on the 11th which seen us win 1-0, courtecy of a John Hickton goal I remember we went in a pub before the game, I was 12 so drinking soft drinks At the game we sat in the seats that were put in for the 66 world cup took John Hickton scored a penalty to put the mighty Boro in front, this was his 3rd goal v Sheff Weds in 5 games against them since we signed him from Sheff Weds, his 1st goal at Hillsborough though The afternoon didn't turn out to good a day for big John, or the Boro fans Jim Platt saved a 1st half penalty from Tommy Craig, the referee deemed Jim had moved to soon & the spot kick was retaken, again jim Platt was to be successful a 2nd time & dived the right way to save the 2nd spot kick Sheff Wed equalised on half time & the 2nd half was one way traffic, eventually we couldnt cope & Tommy Craig, who missed the 1st half penalty, scored a scorcher, I can still see him running away towards their kop with his arms aloft We had led, Jim Platt had saved 2 penalties & we lost 2-1, 2 away games for me, one win & a loss, welcome the the Boro son Stan Andersons team Jim Platt Peter Creamer - 5th appearence out of 6 that season Frank Spraggon Nobby Stiles Stuey Boam Willie Maddren Bill Gates Eric McMordie David Mills John Hickton - 4th goal of the season David Armstrong Sub Gordon Jones - Final appearence as sub, he started a further 8 games
  50. 1 point
    Just to let everyone know that the meeting went well and a vote will be taking place. They will let us know in due course. The voting comes from groups that are already members of the fans forum. The contents of the meeting will be published when I receive the minutes and I'll certainly share that with everyone. I think we contribute a lot the Boro community at large and there is more still we can be involved with. I argued for this passionately. However, I don't think we need to demand a place. Let our actions do the talking for us and lets continue to focus on being an great community for Boro fans.

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