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  1. 16 minutes ago, ITK said:

    If Roger’s departs how would people feel about Jonathan Rowe?

    Come on, we arent going to get Norwich's best young player who has premier league suitors

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  2. 1 hour ago, TheJew said:

    No pace was the problem.

    Put Jones, Lath and Bangura in with Morgan at 10 and we can run the channels and go over the top as well as try and play through the middle.

     

    I agree regarding pace, I think that was why Barlaser, Crooks and Howson struggled too. They looked like they were playing on a different surface at times

  3. 1 hour ago, Humpty said:

    Absolute nonsense. Azaz has looked bright. He’s been brought into a side that’s ravaged by injury and without a striker, he’s also still getting to know how we play and how he fits into that system. 
    Rogers also looks absolutely nothing like Ramirez did for us at this level. He’s certainly improved from the player that started the season but I’ll be delighted to get £10 million for him especially if that goes towards a top quality centre forward.
     

    Completely agree, this must be one of the worst takes I have heard on here for a while. Utter hyperbolic nonsense for the sake of making a point

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    Maybe, after a few months, Azaz will be having the same impact that Rogers is now but to my eyes, Azaz looks like someone who is at a similar level to Diego Fabbrini while Rogers looks capable of a level around Gaston Ramirez.

     

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  4. 1 hour ago, "KM" said:

    I think I was quite harsh on Rogers last night you can tell he’s the only one in our attack with any quality take him out and I think we are buggered.

    I would tell Villa to back off until the summer. 

     

    You dont think Jones, Azaz or McGree have quality? Forss and Crooks offer goals too

  5. 3 hours ago, Bruce said:

    Left wing has largely been Rogers' position before we bought him. Blackpool played him as a striker because they ran out of strikers and he really struggled. Sounds familiar.

    Prior to us he had basically never played as a #10.

    Playing left wing gives him more space when gets the ball while being a #10 (or centre forward) means someone's always tight to you. It's clearly been a massive learning curve for him. He's starting to get better at keeping the ball so it would be shame if Villa get the benefit of our development. 

    I think Azaz gave an interview just after he joined saying that he thinks he's best high up the pitch and implying that he wants to be a #10. I guess the fact that he has played quite a lot of games as a #8 means that he is more used to looking after the ball in tight spaces than Rogers. As far as I can tell, McGree, Rogers and Azaz all want to play in the same hybrid left wing/#10 role. We don't have anyone who is a direct replacement for Akpom.

    Ask Blackpool fans and they suggest he grew into the role as a striker and was showing his best form at the end of the season, although it didn't really convert into goals scored

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  6. 48 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

    Think Rogers needs to stay if he wants to come close to fulfilling his potential, 2 seasons on the bench for Villa and his career will be lower leagues, like most of the Chelsea loan brigade that never nail down a club. 8 months here will I believe be the making of him.

    The truth is they may either loan him straight back out or think he has a role to play

  7. 43 minutes ago, robbieboro said:

    Azaz was horrendous yesterday I feel, constantly losing the ball. 

    Ayling struggled with Jones going off, we had no width and the amount of times Ayling had to come inside as he had no one in front off him  

    In terms of the Swindon defender .. never heard of him. Therefore I have nothing to really to add of relevance to the " transfer thread "

     

    They were all horrendous yesterday and it's his second game for us is it? I wouldn't worry too much about Azaz

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  8. 3 minutes ago, AndyM said:

    Because we have a history of not spending money ? Outside of the parachutists we must be one of the leagues big spenders. Probably skirting round the fringes of what ffp will allow 

    That's not what I am saying, I'm saying we continue to spend as we do but we won't go oh we have £8m let's go spend it. That's not how we work and in my opinion we will only make more signings this Jan if a good striker becomes available for £2-4m

  9. 6 minutes ago, "KM" said:

    Yeah wouldn’t be surprised if we bank the money and don’t see anything til the summer.

    We’ve got history for losing players and then not replacing them. 

    It's not even that KM, we are a championship club who are essentially just trying to stay afloat and hopefully get a decent side along the way. We got Azaz but we still need to sell if we get good offers

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  10. 10 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said:

    Let's see. ..   I hope fans see bigger picture when they see how much we get to spend from the sale 

    Genuinely don't expect anything to spend

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  11. 32 minutes ago, BoroJake said:

    8 million would be a joke. What is it now? Any half decent player gets sold after 6 months? Sunderland didn’t roll over first window somebody wanted Jack Clarke. Nor did Coventry with gyokeres

    Rogers is nowhere near the same importance to us than Clarke or Gyokeres are/were. Rogers hasn't even made it here yet, a decent fee and sell on could be huge to a club like us

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  12. 36 minutes ago, Borodane said:

    I agree about that. Greenwood was much better than Azaz who was just anonymous. You didn’t really notice him until his number came up bar that awful miss. 

    I think the big difference is that Azaz is a new player who has played well in this league for Plymouth, Greenwood however besides a 6 game spell is hard to understand what he adds to the side

  13. 45 minutes ago, TheJew said:

    If we let Rogers AND Hackney go, are we effectively writing off any chance of going up this season? As slim as that chance might be already.

    I really rate both but I genuinely don't think either of them are that integral to us, Barlaser grew into the role of replacing Hackney when he was injured and I don't even think Rogers is out best attacking player

  14. 7 hours ago, Humpty said:

    I’ve checked and he’s actually started more games than I thought so I’m happy to concede that he’s played more of a regular role than what I thought. 
     

    If Jones is fit he starts. He’s integral to the way we play.

    Yeah you're probably right with Jones, I just wondered if with Forss back that may change

  15. 25 minutes ago, Humpty said:

    He hasn’t been a guaranteed starter this season though. Crooks kept him out the team for a large part of the season. That’s indisputable. Once McGree comes back and Azaz settles in, there’s no guarantee that Rogers will start. You wouldn’t say the same about Hackney or Jones for example.

    I don't think Jones is a guaranteed starter, I don't think any of the 3 behind the striker are guaranteed but Rogers certainly has a pretty regular role in the side

  16. 3 minutes ago, Rob said:

    I bet they wont be happy paying 12m for him knowing he went for a lot less earlier in the season tho, plenty of people on here are not rating him at 12m and only saying that coz its villa

     we have done some good business with them lately too, so you have to factor in our working relationship with deals between the clubs, they probs have a lot more we want to get hold of than they do from us, so if no one else is involved it may not be one to play hardball as much as we would with other clubs we have not been involved with as much, given it appears they have been helping us with archer, ramsay and azaz all in the last 12 months (in what looks like preferential treatment over other clubs - at least to the other clubs anyways lol), last thing we want is them being *** back too and it costing us who ever else we have eyes on coming up, so I think that might come in to play too.

    i know i said you can't count on hackney coming back on loan if we sold him, but this one does seem like there is enough relationship there to say we need him this season, lets sort this in the summer or loan him back for rest of the season, as it seems like villa want him more for future seasons than this one (although maybe he wants to slip him in here and there too) 

    People are saying £12m because of the value of British players with as little or a bit more experience as Rogers, ie Ramsey, Keane Lewis-Potter and Spence. Probably more importantly though we don't need to sell and he has a 4 year contract 

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  17. 58 minutes ago, Humpty said:

    Yes but there still has to be some form of basis or comparison for the initial valuation. Rogers doesn’t command a place in our first team so why would he command a £15 million transfer fee.

    He's started more games than he's been on the bench and he's only missed 3 games all season and one of those was through suspension.

    I'd say he certainly commands a place currently too, having started 8 of our last 10 games in the league. He's also been involved in the most goals this season (goals and assists combined)

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  18. 7 minutes ago, BoroNBred said:

    Both are better players than Rodger’s, scored my goals, & would improve our team 

    I rate Whittaker to be fair but Chaplin? He's having a half decent season in a side which he fits perfectly but he wouldn't be anywhere near my first choice for us and his ceiling is much lower than Rogers 

  19. 6 minutes ago, BoroNBred said:

    He’s a bang average player, if we can get £12-14million we are laughing 

    If we do get that sort of money we should bang in two transfers for Conor Chaplin & Morgan Whittaker

    You have displayed some world class player judgement here 😂

  20. 1 hour ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said:

    Although it would be a plus with that link up, we create so many chances we just need someone to finish them.

    None of our strikers have much link up ability tbh

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