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  1. How did you come to this conclusion? Karanka brought so many of his own. Not long ago, everyone was having a go at Karanka for bringing too many of his own men in. And then people had a go at Orta. I'm not having a go at you, I'm just genuinely interested in how you came to that conclusion as I have almost the exact opposite picture of Gibson.
  2. This is awkward at best Never thought I'd say this, but the kit from last year was better looking.
  3. They'll struggle to shift his £90k pw. Seems odd selling a player you signed 6 months ago. Am I missing something here?
  4. Memes. "But could he do it on a cold night......" And Tony Pulis, of course. But I completely agree, both solid Premier League teams and have been for a long time now.
  5. "Oh.. the play-off final just ended? Who won then? I was havin' a parmo, you fancy em?"
  6. Imagine if we had judged Karanka as harshly on our play off performance. We would have got rid of him before he could take us up the next season. If both teams just arrived at Wembley on time they are already doing better than Karanka did with us. Karanka was driving seriously slow. His braking temps were too high and his tyre temps too low. He didn't know what to do. Please help him.
  7. I mean, De Roon was by far the most offensive thinking of our midfield players but ok. Wasn't that the problem?
  8. I would like to add Humpty is the real villain.
  9. I'm not analysing anything in relation to him. He wanted out and we wouldn't let him go those are the facts I'm talking about. Karanka subbed him at half time against Stoke and then dropped him for the next game. Again that's a fact. Agnew picked him and then eventually dropped him completely. Again another fact. Karanka suggested there were issues with his performance relating to what happened if you actually read the articles linked earlier he clearly says Ramirez has to get over the fact that he wasn't allowed to leave. That's not me saying it, that's the manager and whatever else he may also have said he makes it quite clear that Ramirez was still letting what happened in January effect him. I made it clear I was speculating when I said his poor performance afterwards came as a result of not being allowed to leave - 'If you want me to also speculate on things...' I couldn't really be any clearer than that so yes that bit is obviously my interpretation of things. The rest isn't though, the rest is what actually happened. Bloody foreigners eh? Always looking for an argument it seems. I will not stop before I have conquered yer lands - again. You can have your women, I prefer my scandis. Also downing is a villain
  10. Fact? What fact? You are correlating Ramirez' performance with his wish to leave. That is not a fact, but is your interpretation. I normally think you are spot on about many things, but you are seriously misusing "fact" when you are blatantly analysing anything related to Ramirez. If you blame his poor performances on his wish to leave during the winter transfer window, then that's your interpretation - it's not a fact. If you look at him during a game and find his attitude poor, you are analysing, it's not a fact. I have done the exact same thing but you refuse to acknowledge it and cast it aside as mere supposition when you are doing the same thing. I don't think many "facts" exist in football. I know you love to look at "facts", statistics etc., and generally brush aside all external factors potentially affecting performance such as fans. Also, I can't bring forward any argument, I guess. I've tried several times now, and apparently, I have failed miserably.
  11. Nics

    'Other Boro stuff'

    DOWNING IS THE SOURCE CONFIRMING THIS. *puts on tinfoil hat* But seriously, if that text was analysed by anyone at high school level, you'd quickly find the nearest thesaurus and look up ethnocentricity. *puts on tinfoil suit* This is journalism with a very, very clear agenda. And it sure as *** isn't just to say Orta was causing havoc. We'll see a lot of articles in the near future about all the foreign staff members and players. That isn't to say they are not right - I did write about potential cliques within the squad based on language and nationality and that potentially harming the performance.
  12. Of course I read the articles. Wanting to leave, refusing to play, or playing poor are all different things. I wholeheartedly agree with you - And I did say that. I am merely trying to compare your analysis of the situation surrounding Ramirez with that of Downing. If Downing had handed in a transfer request, we could've said the exact same things about Downing (probably). Remember, he left Downing out of the squad against City and benched Ramirez and Negredo. "Now in the difficult moment I need 18 fighters in my team. Where the players show me that they are ready to play and they are fighting and they are going to fight for the club is on the training ground every day. I am with them every day and on Friday, I will always choose at least 18 fighters" And prior to this quote, rumours of Downing and Karanka was already starting to flare up. Karanka responded: "I showed him matches and analysis why he wasn't playing, because tactically he has missed something. He now knows hwy he hasn't been playing but I've always said he's a key players for us as he's one of the few players with Premier League experience" I know we won't get anywhere with this as do you. But I hope you can at the very least follow my argumentation albeit perhaps too hermeneutic of nature to your liking.
  13. "“His attitude in training has been really good,” he added. “Gaston has been really positive and that is important for me when it comes to pick the squad. “I would have no problem playing him on Saturday because he has shown me he can be positive.” "“It was difficult for him but he has to change his mentality. He is here and he has to help us. It was difficult for him to put that behind him." Last article is pure speculation with agent talk. I thought we didn't put much into that. I'm truly sorry if I come across stubborn and pitiful, but you can't criticise me for picking Downing on speculative grounds and then link me articles full of *** to support any claims suggesting Ramirez' poor behavior. I fully agree - Ramirez was a villain too, but I find it seriously hard to follow your argumentation when mine was deemed invalid given the nature of speculation.
  14. I assume you did not solely base "Villain" on performance. In that case, what deemed Ramirez the villain of the season? I didn't make him my villain of the season. I said you can't compare Ramirez who we know as fact caused a problem with Downing when it's based on supposition alone. I didn't name a villain of the season as there are a number of people I'd put into that category rather than one person alone. Right, and where did this fact come from? You know what I'm fishing for. For all I care, I based everything related to Downing on articles whilst the very same was done for Ramirez. Unless I missed some Ramirez interview with him saying "I caused problems, I didn't want to play, and I purposely got sent off."
  15. I assume you did not solely base "Villain" on performance. In that case, what deemed Ramirez the villain of the season?
  16. You haven't used the same method because we know what happened with Ramirez whilst you're guessing about Downing. Source? Or recap. I understand if you can't be bothered digging it up.
  17. I am well aware of that. But if we can't discuss anything based on articles or rumours, then 95 % of all posts on here would have to be removed or questioned in the same manner. I fail to see how my reasoning for Downing is almost deemed invalid when picking Ramirez isn't. I have used the same method to pick Downing as my Villain as everyone else picking Ramirez. I, too, find Ramirez to be a villain. But I base that on articles, rumours and everything in between, and so do everyone picking Ramirez. If for performance only, no one would pick Ramirez, statistically he was not the worst at all.
  18. I think Billy Woof Woof is the president.
  19. I see so Karanka was the biggest villain of them all then in your eyes as he contributed more to internal disturbances than any other employee of the club? Karanka fell out with some players and staff in the period before he left and it had nothing whatsoever to do with Downing. I think some people have created a fictionalised account of what has happened here this season which sees the innocent and well meaning Aitor Karanka undermined by the machiavellian machinations of Stewart Downing. I don't really understand why this is unless you choose to ignore every other bit of information that has come out related to this. It's fairly clear where the main fault lies this season. Downing certainly has his share of it but there are bigger villains for us this season unfortunately. I sort of knew this was one coming. I baited myself, didn't I? Naturally, Karanka will be the one responsible for the bust-up as Downing probably didn't do it for no reason at all. I guess it comes down to differences in philosophies and man management (and arguably team selection, can't have Downing out of that one) My problem with Downing is his - alleged - clique recruitment in an effort to stand up to Karanka. That's it. You can have bust-ups with the manager, it's only natural, but the moment you drag other people into it, you risk the harmony of the squad. Think about it, you instantly create an environment of "US V THEM" - Those who disagree with Karanka and those who do not. The players should be professionals and disregard it completely, but I don't think even you can deny feelings and personal well-being has an influence on the player's performance. What I am clumsily trying to say is Downing's dispute with Karanka may have had an unnecessary effect on the entire team. Even if Karanka is truly the villain through his miserable management, I still think Downing is in no right to undermine his authority. Also, for good measure. All of the above is based on articles, rumours, information on this forum, my own analysis of the situation. Conjecture at its finest. Sorry if this is incoherent.
  20. You read me like an open book! I actually deleted some text with ethnocentricity. I admit, I accidentally put 'solely' which I suppose could add some confusion. Here's a list of my reasoning for deeming Downing my Villain of the Season: - Poor performances - Flipping the fans - Attitude on pitch - Bust up with Karanka - Claiming some players don't want to be here in a post-season interview published on mfc.co.uk adding support to previous rumours. Again, I don't know why you are giving me stick. Villain of the Season is literally a scapegoating, is it not? Why is Ramirez a perfect choice when Downing isn't? As far as I am concerned, I've answered all your questions. But you haven't answered any of mine. - Poor performances - No problem with this one but does that alone make him a villain? Given how many players have grossly underperformed this season? - Flipping the fans - Where's your evidence? What are you basing this on? - Attitude on pitch - i suggest you watch past Stewart Downing performances throughout his career. You might understand then that he isn't a 'blood and guts' player. - Bust up with Karanka - Where's your evidence? What are you basing this on? - Claiming some players don't want to be here in a post-season interview published on mfc.co.uk adding support to previous rumours. - You'll have to explain this one to me. You haven't asked me any questions. None that i can work out anyway. I think defining Villain is rapidly becoming a necessity. - Poor performances - No problem with this one but does that alone make him a villain? Given how many players have grossly underperformed this season? - No, which why I've listed many more things. - Flipping the fans - Where's your evidence? What are you basing this on? - Multiple articles. And I think Red Rocket confirmed it too as she saw it. I did not see it with my own eyes, so I guess we'll cross it off as conjecture. - Attitude on pitch - i suggest you watch past Stewart Downing performances throughout his career. You might understand then that he isn't a 'blood and guts' player. - Thank you for a quick recap of his playing style. I never expected Downing to two-foot anyone out of sheer love for the club. I am referring to his general strutting about with next to no effort in any part of the game except running for a set piece. This is exaggerating, but I don't have the memory nor video material to back it up. We'll cross it off as conjecture for good measure. - Bust up with Karanka - Where's your evidence? What are you basing this on? - It doesn't matter what I say anyway. - Claiming some players don't want to be here in a post-season interview published on mfc.co.uk adding support to previous rumours. - You'll have to explain this one to me. - Conjecture. But it has to do with the bust up with Karanka, club culture, squad harmony and other intangible concepts. But really, it doesn't matter what I say, does it? You are not living under a rock and you've probably read the same articles I have. Heck, you've discussed them more than I have. I am sure you know what I am referring to in the above bullet points. My question to you: Why is Ramirez a Villain, and what makes it different from Downing?
  21. Poor performances is fair enough reason as is flipping the fans or rather a fan if that's what actually happened. The bust up with Karanka is a bit different though as he's on a long list of players who fell out with him or that he fell out with. Claiming some players don't want to be here is simple honesty I'm afraid as some of them clearly didn't/don't and either aren't here now or will shortly be on their way. I'm not sure he can be labelled a villain for stating the truth even if it's a truth that some people don't seem to want to hear. Conjecture alert: Anyone contributing to internal disturbance and - allegedly - trying to rally teammates for his own course (or the club's course if you see him as a protagonist) is, in my book, villainesque behavior. What good will ever come out of it? If there were huge issues with the management of Karanka, I'm sure Gibson would have heard of it and dealt with it accordingly. For me, it sounds like Downing is trying to paint a picture in which he's the protagonist and Karanka (and I assume certain players of foreign descent) the antagonist(s). I don't think he's in any position to slate certain players for their commitment. That's only for a handful few in the club to declare, and even less so publicly. Arguably, the turbulence, whether created by Downing, Karanka, Ramirez, Valdes or anyone else, will have an effect on the pitch. The dauphin is just trying to put himself in the top of the hierarchy again. EDIT: Well, D.Z pretty much said what I did in 2 sentences.
  22. You read me like an open book! I actually deleted some text with ethnocentricity. I admit, I accidentally put 'solely' which I suppose could add some confusion. Here's a list of my reasoning for deeming Downing my Villain of the Season: - Poor performances - Flipping the fans - Attitude on pitch - Bust up with Karanka - Claiming some players don't want to be here in a post-season interview published on mfc.co.uk adding support to previous rumours. Again, I don't know why you are giving me stick. Villain of the Season is literally a scapegoating, is it not? Why is Ramirez a perfect choice when Downing isn't? As far as I am concerned, I've answered all your questions. But you haven't answered any of mine.
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