thomas

I think we need a second before the end of half as dominate as we are so far surely Birmingham can't be this bad second half.

Went yesterday good second half, really terrible first from both sides. I think I've realised what our biggest problem is playing out from back this season, when the ball goes to lb or rb the central midfield gets marked or has players near by if the ball gets passed to them but they make no attempt to shake the markers. I noticed it at Norwich in first 30, Chelsea in second leg and against qpr up till the point they gave up after 2-0. Therefore when the ball gets played to lb or rb they either have to lump it forward, carry it out or play it up the line as no options been made.

Lets do the good first, finishes for the goals we're decent and nice 3 points for us, this should give little confidence going into qpr and for next home game. That red card swung the game, I mean *** first 30 (I know I said 20 earlier) looked like we weren't capable of having a shot or putting in tackle just let them have it.

You should see league 2 race first the playoffs mate

Seems to be a right theme with that, coburn kept his seat warm for awhile.

Staying*

Good goal from engel.

You cant defend that first 20 mins, I'm sorry let's say because I didn't watch it thryve been superb since the red card what happened to that first 20 as it looked like they werent bothered just content to let Norwich have it.

My mate just messaged me, that first 20 mins didn't look we even were trying, how come one of them lost it and got sent off?

Switched over can't watch anymore, going to qpr at weekend *** knows why must be stupid.

I'd argue Howson was in first season someone who snuffed out danager but its clear his performances are declining due to his legs going albeit very good servant to the club. I agree if it's a warrior/leader in the middle like leadbitter/boateng/mustoe I think that would be perfect.

Just watched 2 goals back, how does glover not save the first one had 2 shots that could have been saved particularly the first one. Second one why bother closing a player down just invite them to shoot vdb. 2 very avoidable goals, one a glover trait (spilling it) and one's a Carrick defence trait (not closing down happened over and over again). Why is there a refusal to sort out this defence (closing down, marking from corners extra, getting back in shape when we lose yhe ball and recognising danger not even playing out from back even though thats a problem as well), we need defending coach i

Akpom as well

I hope you are righy but no faith in Carrick on this one, he's the new Crooks upfront.

Nope spot on, but Carrick hasn't been here last 15 years of downward spiral with two outlier seasons under karanka where there was shades of recovery. Carrick is to blame for not motivating them, poor subs (in general not really today) and putting wrong players on the pitch at the start. You could argue for the fact we are bad defensively.