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After a scrappy 20 mins at the start I think we've played pretty well.

It'll be crisis time if we lose but their first 11 is miles stronger than ours on paper.

I don't see this group of players ever keeping a clean sheet. Not with how open we are at the back as well.

Very underrated post!

Spot on, throwing darts would be the way I'd describe our recruitment.

Yeah as you and a few others have said, chopping and change your team every game gives the impression that you're a manager who is lost and hoping to stumble onto something that works. We've seen it before from managers who are on their last legs.

If I bought 8k worth of shares I'm selling at a profit to the first Saudi or Oligarch who offers me money.

Apart from one shot against Spurs I haven't seen anything that tells me he's good enough for this level. He could be great in league 1 next season though.

Absolutely, after reading comments on this board and social media its clear Carrick is running out of time with the fans. If he can't get himself out of this pickle then he's maybe not the manager we thought he was last season.

This has absolutely nailed it, I don't think Carrick is clueless but I think he's lost at the moment and part of that is down to the poor group of players. It's up to him to sort it out now though..... and fast.

To be fair to Carrick and the players I think the second half at least showed the players are playing for him. We played with a higher line, played with more tempo and with positive intent. If the players weren't playing for him it would have been easy to chuck it in last night. Don't get me wrong the first half was shocking I think we are seeing a lack of quality, massive lack of confidence and a lack of organisation at the moment. All those are bad but I don't think its a lack of effort. You're right about it being a relegation battle now though, I can't see it being much better than that.

I don't think we have the money and certainly not the kind he'd demand. I don't want a short term firefighter, if Carrick goes I'd go for a manager that can get the team organised but also someone who wants to play the right kind of football and someone who wants to come here and build something. I'd still give Carrick more time if it was up to me because I don't want to keep repeating this same cycle that we can't get out of. Saying that I'm pretty ambivalent to it all now, I've accepted that I'm probably never gonna see us in the Premier league again while Gibson is here and league 1 football is more likely now in the short term. I'm way past getting angry anymore, it's pointless.

There's no way Allardyce would 'lower' himself to the lower reaches of the Championship. I wouldn't want him either.

It's his destiny.

Maybe he saw Woody creating a new presentation with his crayons in the dressing room.