Smokedsalmon
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Just now, Borodane said:
Can't go through a 50 game season with just one senior striker.
Yeah, I just mean it isn't a priority for me. I'd rather we spent what we have left on a pair of pacey, ball-carrying wide men and got in someone like that Simms from Everton on loan.
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1 minute ago, newyddion said:
as a defender seeing Uche and Hugill on the teams sheet.. you’re gonna be straight on to the Samaritans!
Would be a fearsome Championship strike force. Unfortunately I think Warnock is wedded to the 1 up top, which is why I'm honestly not too arsed about bringing in another striker. I don't see anyone being better at it than Uche.
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1 minute ago, ManBearPig said:
Surprised that people would turn their nose up at Hugill. He’s about as best as we can hope for in our predicament. A local lad who has championship experience and would suit our style of play 🤷🏻♂️ And he’s not exactly terrible at all is he?
The issue is more how the manager would use him. Hugill brought in to play alongside Uche and bully teams? Absolutely.
Hugill brought in on his own to play the thankless task up top? Waste of time. We tried it, and it didn't work.
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Just now, ManBearPig said:
Would anyone be happy to have Uche as our main striker? I just feel like we could have a Britt esque striker, ie not a big lad, and it wouldn’t suit our game as much as having a target man to bring others into play?
I think Uche would work best with a quicker striker next to him. I don't really want to play either or on their own up top.
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3 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:
No chance we'd be signing him, but they're on about ripping up his contract.
He'd be a coup.
He would be an incredible signing, yeah. Fear he goes to a top league though. Perfect lone striker for lower mid-table teams.
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3 minutes ago, FinallyRegistered said:
Would be an ideal signing and I’m sure Warnock would jump at the chance to sign him. Had a look at Malaga’s squad and no one else stands out so… fingers crossed. Rondon Calling.
He plays in China, not for Malaga, for Dalian. No way we could come anywhere near matching the sort of money he is on there.
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On the basis of what I've seen of him, Jones is more than capable of fulfilling one of our winger roles. We only need one more I think.
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1 minute ago, Neverbefore said:
Not really sure where the meltdown is coming from tbh. We were always one or two injuries away from this lineup and with the players we have in our squad, were going to have at least 2-3 players out more often than not.
Because it's absolutely inexcusable. We've been in this position for too long, they've had too many chances to get it right, and they keep failing.
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2 minutes ago, Uwe said:
Can someone please give me a condensed account of what’s happening please.
sorry for being lazy but TIA 👍Naff all mate.
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4 minutes ago, sambaDTR said:
Look on the bright side. Chuba Akpom may be a goal machine when he finally plays in front of a home crowd!
I wouldn't write off Chuba Akpom, personally. Put him up top with Uche, let them share responsibility, play off each other, and I think you'd see a different player.
I honestly think you could have had Harry Kane, Robert Lewandowski, name who you like up top for us last season and they'd have struggled. It's like when Lewandowski plays for Poland and, apart from moments of individual brilliance because he's THAT good, he doesn't get a sniff.
Boro's problem has been, for YEARS, going out and replacing strikers. We've been through so, so many I can't even remember them all. When will the penny drop that a striker doesn't just magic up 25 goals? It comes from the players behind them.
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4 minutes ago, Rat catcher said:
At the moment we appear to be interested or linked with spurious players every day of the week. It's like we are pulling names out of the transfer hat. Do we actually have a recruitment team working hard to get any of these deal done ?
I think we have long since gone past the point of working through any "list of targets".
It's very clear based on what Warnock said about literally pulling a name out of a hat over their tea-break that it is now just a case of "who's about, and can we get them?".
The sort of embarrassing mis-management that comes about when the manager and his staff, the chairman, and the recruitment department are all working on completely different wavelengths.
Mr Scott has a very, very big job on his hands.
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I'd like to see something like this. Bit like how Brentford play. 2 up top so our direct hopeful hoof balls actually have somewhere to stick. McNair can step forward into the holding role beyond the defensive line, Crooks and Payero given the opportunity to bomb forward and underlap. Just get the ball into the box and let the physicality take care of itself. Tav given the free role.
More and more I do wonder why I'm not the coach of this team tbh.
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10 minutes ago, nunthorpered said:
Tosun Batshuayi and Ikpeazu up top. I knew it all along
I unironically think we are crying out for two up top. Two proper strikers, that is, not a half-and-half like Watmore. We don't have the quality out wide to play the 4-3-3 so I think if we did have two competitive strikers like Ikpeazu up top, so much more of our direct play would stick and give the midfielders a chance to catch up and get into the game.
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“I’m hoping the Riverside will be rocking. We need a bit of help at the moment to get it in the goals.”
You know things are bad when the manager is relying on sound vibration to get the ball to roll over the line rather than tactics or a gameplan.
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Just now, nunthorpered said:
Couldn't score in a brothel. He's pure cack
Yes but he's 6'4 and that, in modern football, is all that matters!
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3 minutes ago, atypical_boro said:
If you're honest though you are not going to be truly entertained if we are not in a promotion/play-off fight. Lovely, exciting football doesn't co-habit with finishing in mid-table mediocrity.
I agree that we haven't significantly improved the squad as yet but a) still time and b) we don't actually know how good the new players are yet, some of them may even be better than they were before (some may be worse) and no one has the faintest idea about Payero.
I back Warnock to get a bit more out of them than most other managers would, and he's had another year to get the dressing room to buy into his short-term goals.
I honestly do think we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season, even if we don't actually get up. This season may not be about long-term planning but it isn't a 'write off'.
I was honestly very optimistic going into the Fulham game. I thought we had brought in some key players to enable Warnock's style of football to be more effective.
Truth is, we were horrific for 75 minutes. It was exactly the same as last season. No attacking patterns of play or intent. Hit and hope. That's what I just cannot forgive. He's not coaching them offensively, and if he is, it isn't working.
(And no, I don't believe the fact that we fluked a 1-1 draw from our 1 shot on target is cause for celebration or suggests Warnock was right with how he set up. He got lucky.)
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Just now, Dan1234 said:
You mean the 1 shot per game isn't doing it for you? How dare you have such demanding standards.
Sadly not, no. My girlfriend is furious the season has started again. Fears my mood every Saturday now.
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The thing with Warnock is we know for a fact he is literally just buying us time. Buying us time to get through the worst effects of covid, ffp, and our horrific squad-building of the last 5 years, so that when the new guy comes in he has a bit of a fresh slate (you'd hope).
But it's so hard to get excited about football when you know, the manager knows, all the players know, that it's just a stopgap season.
I don't expect or demand promotion (or even a promotion fight) I just want to feel like I'm entertained, even 50% of the time, when I watch us play.
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2 minutes ago, newyddion said:
I’d look out our goal scoring record and understand why we were trying to sign two strikers and two wingers.. I’d see that’s why we’ve been crap since we signed Britt, Rudy & Co and I’d fancy my chances.
Taking a look at some squad values on transfermerkt including strikers and wingers..
Toulouse £29m
Hatayspor £25m
Aberdeen £11m
Then look at one without:
Middlesbrough £42m
Then think.. maybe there’s something in this?
ask around, a promotion specialist for manager, one of the most respected football chairmen in the world and club renowned for overachieving and punching above its weight.
Maybe we need to get you on the negotiation side of things then mate! You do a better job selling the club than I could.
I think if most people we were after were thinking how you were thinking... we'd have signed them.
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9 minutes ago, boksicdink said:
It's not great but we aren't the finished product yet. The club have rightly identified the attacking positions as areas of improvement so i'm not worried yet.
Warnock took QPR up with one creative player (Taraabt) so it is possible!
We've all identified those positions as problems for about a decade without it ever really being properly sorted.
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Just now, atypical_boro said:
Depends what classes as 'qualified'. If you want someone young (as per the post above), you're not going to get much experience.
When people say "young" they don't mean "he needs to be a specific age" they mean "he needs to have been taught how to play football that is relevant to the modern game" and not "yOu NeEd To DiE fOr ThReE PoInTs PASHUUUUN"
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1 minute ago, newyddion said:
If I was a striker I’d fancy going to a club with no strikers. Warnock has a record for getting teams promoted., I’d fancy that ride!
If you’re currently plying your trade outside of England and you fancy playing in England with your sights set on the premier league.. then we’re not a bad option imo.
Bamford, Traore, Fletcher.. all currently in the prem. Would you not look at our goal scoring record (as a decent striker) and think ‘I could absolutely smash that!’?
On your first point, if you're a striker and you've just watched Britt Assombalonga, Ashley Fletcher, and Chuba Akpom score less than 15 goals between them over the course of a season, I think you start to wonder if it might not be the manager rather than the personnel at fault. We have no strikers because we've literally just bombed our record signing, expensive project, and last year's marquee signing, all out the window. Not enticing.
Your second point is true, because that's how we've gotten Payero.
On your third point, Bamford is in the prem off the back of his performances for Leeds, not us (we bombed him out, again). Traore is a unique specimen in football, and Fletcher won't kick a ball for Watford.
I'd look at our goal scoring record and think "they must be ****".
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5 minutes ago, atypical_boro said:
Who could that be? You've basically described Woodgate.
Why does a new manager have to be 'young' though? Why can't they be 55? If they're brilliant and stick around for 10 years (highly unlikely) they'll only be 65 at the end of it, hardly too old.
Woodgate was not 'qualified'.
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I honestly think we struggle to get players in because of our reputation. We have been pretty ****-poor for a few seasons now.
We had Pulis - everybody knows what he is like.
We had Woodgate - everybody knows he was a failure.
We have Warnock - everybody knows what he is like.
Two managers with a reputation for being dinosaurs, and a failed newbie with no experience. You can't say the football hasn't reflected it, either. Why would any exciting, creative player (who has actually heard of us unlike Payero, poor lad) watch us on the telly and think "better call my agent and get me signed up to join that wild ride"?
Managers make a huge difference in where players go to play football. We might have no problem signing Warnock's old mates on freebies, or big tough lads like Uche and Crooks, but otherwise...
If you were any striker at any level you'd think Middlesbrough is where goal scoring records go to die. And you'd be right.
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They probably think 15 goals from a main striker isn't a lot.
As Boro fans, we know better.