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  1. Is this not exactly the problem we were complaining about a year or so ago? New manager comes in with a different style and we have to turn over the whole squad because it’s not “their team”. We flounder for a few years and then get a new manager in. I much prefer the Norwich/Brentford model - DoF controls the signings, decides on a team identity and hire a manager that can work within it. If we are going to play with fast wingers, solid strikers and a defensive midfield then Warnock fits. Importantly the DoF strategy means that the next manager (or a list of candidates) should already ha
  2. There is nothing anywhere in the rules about getting the ball or not. See earlier post.
  3. The argument is that their player contacts our player (not the other way around). That rules out a lot of the reasons for a foul. For a foul to be given against Saville you either think he made contact (I think the video shows their player kick Saville), or the challenge was already careless/reckless/dangerous. You appear to think the latter, I don’t. Football’s rules are full of subjective calls - and the only opinion that matters is the refs (unfortunately). Happy to disagree, just explaining my reasoning. I’d not have given a foul either way.
  4. There’s a really good breakdown here https://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/10719/in-soccer-can-it-be-a-foul-even-if-the-player-gets-to-the-ball-first if their player makes contact with Saville, then it can only be a foul if careless, reckless or using excessive force. I don’t think that is the case here. anyway - we were never going up without some decent strikers, so I’m not too gutted. Will be interesting to see whoWarnock signs over the summer.
  5. So if a player takes a shot then runs into another player then they get a foul - because that’s the logical extrapolation of what you are saying.
  6. You can tell that Bidwell hits the boro player by watching bidwell’s foot. It turns sideways on contact, that doesn’t happen if he hits the ball.it’s a call a player will spot and ref’s always miss. Another crap ref performance - the championship needs VAR more than the prem.
  7. Crap result again - but I think the team was massively outperforming pre-Xmas rather than underperforming now. This is a team that almost got relegated last year - people forget pretty fast. I don’t expect us to be challenging for playoffs this year and the fact that we are anywhere near is a bonus. Is NW the right man for the long term? Who knows... - I’d prefer to build a footballing culture and bring through young managers playing attractive, attacking football but 1) so would every club 2) Gibson won’t change/commit to that 3) fans won’t take 2/3 seasons of being mid table or lowe
  8. Great win, good to see a response from the players - let’s hope our thin squad can survive xmas. Just a quick point on these stats. I think you might have an issue with your conclusion. The reason you play 3 CMs is likely that you want to shore up a midfield against a better team. You would expect a lower points per game, lower goals scored and higher goals conceded - because you are playing a better team (whatever formation you play). You need to consider team strength (another variable in a regression) to see if the difference in formation is the underlying cause. Also your sample size
  9. I don’t disagree with that, he should score today. But if you are discussing 15 goals in a season then you have to look past the goals scored/chances created on a single day (unless it’s a very good day!). I’m not a big fan of Britt as a striker - misses too many easy chances - but I’m not going to blame him alone for our inability to score goals over the past few years.
  10. On strikers. Our problem has not necessarily been strikers - we’ve had lots of class strikers over the time period mentioned, from Yakubu, Hasslebaink, Viduka, Boksic to poachers with good record like Rhodes, Boyd and Britt. The issue has been - and continues to be - creating good chances. How many class attacking midfielders have we had in the past decade? Look how the correlate with our goals scored. With Rav we had Juninho, with Ricard we had Gazza (almost got an England recall), and with Bamford we had Tomlin/Ramirez. Most of the time we have not had a true attacking midfielder - maybe ex
  11. When Gibson's biggest fans are giving him 6/10, then you know it's not gone well... I gave him a 2/10. Possibly a little harsh if you're just thinking about managerial appointments, but the way the rest of the club has been run (behind the manager) has been awful. Our academy production has dropped off significantly (Spence and Wing are from elsewhere), our transfer dealings have been awful (why did we sell Bamford?!), he's not backed the good managers when they needed it (Mowbray/Kraranka), has been too slow to fire the bad ones (Monk aside) and we've fallen well behind in our ability t
  12. Agree that Karanka wasn’t an option. I’m not sure the only mistakes were that summer however. The signings have generally been very poor value since we came down. Arguably (karanka’s tenure aside) they have been for a very very long time.
  13. Mainly because getting deals over the line is his specific job. No one has suggested it is easy, but his record is dire. We have consistently overpaid and lost out to other teams of a similar level. I don’t think Gibson’s previous railing against agents is helping us either. This summer is highlighting that the problems in the club run far deeper than the manager! Also - Why are we not going for players from Europe? We have 3 non-U.K. players in the squad at the moment. Got to be the lowest since pre-robson era. Another Gibson policy it seems
  14. Where is the narrative about Warnock playing negative football is coming from? His goals scored column is pretty reasonable in the championship - it’s awful in the premiership, but he had some crap teams to work with. I actually think that a lot of players would want to play for him - he’s got a reasonable reputation for building hard working teams with good attitudes - and getting promotion. I’d put him in a different league to Pulis and Bruce
  15. I’m not disappointed with Warnock, but a one year contract doesn’t scream that Gibson is going for promotion. I think Warnock will be tasked with righting the ship and setting up for the next manager - on the cheap, unfortunately. He will probably sign better players than the last few managers and have some input into the longer term transfer plans, but I really think no one should be expecting miracles. We’ve got an appalling squad and have lost most of the experienced players. Compare us to Watford or Bournemouth (or even dirty leeds) and you can see how far away we are from a promotion team
  16. Danny Crowley has just been fired from Huddersfield. How about Neil Warnock as Director of Football and Cowley as manager? Think Cowley would want to play a similar style to Warnock and could build for the long term.
  17. Revolutionary thought, but we could go for a young manager that is not totally inexperienced! It has been either dinosaurs or newbies under Gibson because he won’t “poach” another club’s manager. Dinosaurs tend to play negative football, e.g. Pulis, and get hate from the fans. The newbies have generally been awful at recruitment (Karanka the exception - but we had a DoF). If the next man’s job is to rebuild a passable championship side then a little experience or/and a DoF is a must have. Equally if the manager won’t commit to 3 years then they are not committed to a full rebuild so not suitab
  18. Sounds like Warnock is trying to take some pressure off the strikers. We’ve scored 40 goals, less than a goal per game. We have close to zero creativity in midfield, little pace and two strikers (Britt and Fletcher) who are pure confidence players.. with zero confidence. The defence is not great but it’s not what is going to relegate us if we keep losing 0-1.
  19. Warnock highlighted the lack of leaders at the club and it showed badly today. They changed shape with 5 mins to go and we panicked and kept giving them back the ball. Yes, the quality in the final 3rd was bad (awful) but we are a team scrapping around in the bottom half, so I don’t expect a lot. Another day something bobbles about a bit and we sneak a winner. We were marginally the better team today and lost. Sometimes that happens, but at least we looked interested and did play with some intent.
  20. Brilliant result, good (not great) performance. Not out of the woods yet, but Warnock is a doing the right things. The Gestede call is part of setting the tone. No more freeloading, no expensive players who think they are better than the club, you work for 90mins minimum. Pick players on merit and effort. I think the club needs a season of this to fix the culture. I personally can’t stand Warnock, the excuses, railing at refs and sarcasm. However, he is vital to sorting the mess that has been allowed to fester imho - no bullshit, restore a bit of pride. Would be happy to have another year of h
  21. We’ve lost Randolph, Ayala, Downing, Flint, Hugill, Besic, and Mikel. They were mostly reasonably important under Pulis, so I’m not sure quite how well he actually would be able to set up the team in his previous formation. He was suspicious of the youth players and we now have more in the side. The problem with trying to switch up defensive organisation is that it takes time on the training ground. With the fixture list compressed we have precious little of that. Anyway, whether it’s a good idea or not, I think it’s very unlikely he’d agree without a massive lump sum and/or a longe
  22. Why bring back Pulis? - there are more than 2 managers in the world. The players have been trying to get out of the ultra defensive mindset that Pulis put them in (unsuccessfully mind). I’m not sure putting them back into it is a long term solution or if dramatically changing style (if we have one) is going to be much help/possible with a handful of games left. I still think we’ll stay up btw - our fixtures are not bad, no games vs top 8. At present, 7 of our 9 wins have come against teams 14th or lower. Also you are mistaking Pulis for a guy that will put his reputation on the line t
  23. The only thing he improved was his bank account... (and Traore)
  24. I’m usually quite late to the “sack the manager party” (except for Monk) - but Woody is living on borrowed time. It would be ok if you could see any consistent strategy but he seems in full panic mode - a bit like monk was near the end. Not sure that Gibson’s brain trust will appoint the right man though (again) - would take Karanka back in a heartbeat - and it still doesn’t solve our problems with lack of funds / talent in attack
  25. I’ve not commented on here for a while, but today has drawn me back in. I’m not sure Woodgate is going to make it as a manager, too much chopping and changing, and no real plan on how to score goals. That said, he (like Southgate) has been given an awful hand. The team has had very little investment over the last few years, he inherited a squad with little attacking quality and our off the field organisation seems completely shot. Replacing him might keep us up, but the buck (again) stops with Steve Gibson.
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