DurhamRed 2,047 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) See we missed out on that Young PSG defender to Forest. Another fish has swam away. Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 But honestly we are never going to achieve anything until we bring in pacy wingers like we have had in Traore and Adomar. Simple as why isn't Gibson not investing properly in this squad like he did with Karanka. We just trying to do it on the cheap and that doesn't work making the fans suffer for his failures in trusting Monk then Pulis. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
diggerlad07 3,695 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TheJew said: Still need pace, width and creativity. Same for 3 years now. We had creativity and width at the back end of last season with Roberts and also recently with Traore so I wouldn't say it's been 3years, but yes I agree we need a lot of pace and directness in our team. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, tmcc said: theres no evidence for this claim that a 20 man squad would be fine, an average squad size these days is 24-26 players so basically 2 people every position. with a 20 man squad, your only a handful of injuries and suspensions away from being at the bare bones, especially if the injured or suspended players play the same positions. The average number of players injured in squad is between 5-6, so based on the average we'd have 14/15 players to choose from every week. its just far to risky thus why almost no club will start a season with a 20 man squad willingly. look at us last season there was a point where was 8 players out, if that happened now we'd be screwed. Hypothetically a 20 man squad with 17 players of good quality is good enough realisticallty you would supplement the 20 players from the academy to make it 24-25 to deal with your scenarios financially getting in 6 more players to compete with 14 first teamers we have so far, is probably out of our reach. more likely to get 3 and if we do get lots of injuries, you deal with it the best you can - like always 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Weasel 966 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Need to splash the cash on Roberts I think. He will make the difference in this side. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: See we missed out on that Young PSG defender to Forest. Another fish has swam away. If we were in for him for the 5 million euros Forest have paid then we have way more money to spend than we all think! Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 640 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Weasel said: Need to splash the cash on Roberts I think. He will make the difference in this side. Unfortunately I don’t think Warnock is all that interested 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jamie-H said: If we were in for him for the 5 million euros Forest have paid then we have way more money to spend than we all think! True Forest have just spent that Matty Cash money to get him. But I feel Gibson is using Financial Fair play to no longer invest in the squad like he use to. Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,370 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) It doesn’t have to be Roberts any wingers with pace a bit of creativity will do! If you were setting up against us the first thing you’d say is, play a high a line and press because you know there’s nothing running in behind you. Link to post Share on other sites
tmcc 583 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Just now, Mr_Maz said: Hypothetically a 20 man squad with 17 players of good quality is good enough realisticallty you would supplement the 20 players from the academy to make it 24-25 to deal with your scenarios financially getting in 6 more players to compete with 14 first teamers we have so far, is probably out of our reach. more likely to get 3 and if we do get lots of injuries, you deal with it the best you can - like always if you take a 20 man squad and add a few youth teamers to make it a 24-25 man squad, its no longer a 20 man squad, which kind of backs up my point. id be happy if we had 20 experienced or decent players with 4-5 youngsters back it up, but we dont. we have 20 players, 3 of which are keepers, of the 17 outfield players a good 7 are youngsters with little experience (wood, bola, liddle, coulson, spence, walker,djiksteel and even tav). if we had 20 players with those youngsters mentioned backing up id be quite happy. Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The trouble is tonight we had no match winners sat on the bench to bring on and change the game. That's what needs to be brought in the next 3 weeks whether this is Roberts or someone else we just need creative flair player 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,917 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Neverbefore said: This we can definitely agree on. A club of our side being stuck in the championship is bad enough, not challenging to get out of it is soul destroying. Woodgate had us challenging to get out of it and you complained about him too 🤔 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 theres one glaring type o player were desperate for and thatsan attaing midfielder or rather a lin player from midfield to the attack. someonethat can dictate things if you like. juninho,merson tomlin,souness,are all such playersthat stand out on previous sides that filled this role. its all well crying out for wingers but for every downing theres a hamill. its pretty much a lucy dip how well they will perform and how consistantly. morsy may ea important addition as he is capable of controlling the rear and centre part of midfield from wat ive seen of him,but the gaping void is still 15 yards higher upfield . not convinced tonight with spence and his positional sence. hes extremely raw and we needto strengthen the squad in the role he filled . Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Not sure why we are looking so hard for two strikers as a priority. You could put Harry Kane and lewandowski up front for us and we wouldn’t score. It’s the creativity which is the problem, Britt and fletcher are perfectly good strikers and I reckon many teams in the league would like a front two as good as them! Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,370 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Some of the recruitment decisions we make in terms of areas of priority are utterly mind boggling. Crying out for the same stuff every window and never gets solved. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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