Jump to content
oneBoro Forum
Smogzilla

The Summer/Autumn transfers thread 2020 aka TURN DOWN FOR WHAT(more)

Recommended Posts

5 minutes ago, TheJew said:

There's a lot of free agents not moving at the moment. The covid shut down is a reality check to football salaries in general.

It could very likely mean a lot of short term one year deals agreed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
56 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

Probably, most of the players don't return to training for another 2 weeks.

I don't think we'll make 6 signings in the next 2 weeks though, so it's going to be an issue but it is every season.

Bar last year almost every club has signed players after the season has started.

Warnock said players return this coming Monday. 17th Aug.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
53 minutes ago, tmcc said:

a 2 week pre season fills me with nothing but confidence. 

Pre season is about building fitness and that's not necessary this summer, anything longer would just be an injury risk. Players need a short rest and then to get back to it

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, boroie said:

 

Loving the stats DFDS. I think the Howson numbers are definitely impacted by his spell in defence during the season, the number of clearances is an obvious outlier. However regardless of where Howson or McNair played, none of our midfielders are anywhere near Stewarts figures (tackles, fouls, etc) so a completely different type of player than we have. He's obviously a destroyer/anchor type of DM, and that type of player would presumably open up space for other midfielders to shine in a central 3. 

It is a shame that the stats per position aren't really available as that would help show a better picture to how well (Statswise) Howson and McNair performed in the midfield. Stewart is certainly streets ahead in terms of number of tackles and interceptions, but one obvious downside, is that his fouls committed stats are also much higher. But I suppose, that is a natural occurrence however, as being involved in more tackles is likely to cause the probability of fouls being committed to jump up. He has played less minutes (1968) than both Howson (3657) and McNair (3281) too, so potentially if he had played a similar amount of minutes, maybe his tackles and intercepts would level out a bit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, tmcc said:

but  the season starts in 4 weeks, is 4 weeks enough time to get the 6 or so player we need to gel together?  

Warnock has said he wants 5 players apparently.  I don't know if that includes Hall or not.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Warnock has said he wants 5 players apparently.  I don't know if that includes Hall or not.

It’s including Friend and Johnson, too. Imagine. 😂

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Warnock has said he wants 5 players apparently.  I don't know if that includes Hall or not.

Grant Hall has managed 30+ games in only 3 seasons in his career, and another season of 27 games.  So we probably need another 2 CBs.  Why has he managed so few games at 28?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Two things I think we will see happen 

1. Lower league clubs will end up having to sell there better players for a fraction of the cost to a year ago. It's a buyer's market and some of these clubs will have to sell to survive as their income streams dry up.

2. A lot of the players out of contract will get clubs after the window shuts and clubs have spaces to fill.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, wilsoncgp said:

From what I've seen, Maddison has a better talent for scoring goals which is something we could do with from midfield/wings in a Warnock team.

Still, he's been mentioned pretty much every season for 5 years and the same questions get asked without ever being answered. The lad clearly thinks he's worth more than people are willing to offer, which is gonna kill him this summer now he's out of contract. Clearly his attitude has caused some issues in the past and if he can't work past that then he's done for.

He's apparently again reiterated he's had no contact from anyone, calling himself the least-wanted guy in football, genuinely continues to raise the question as to why. We're in football, it's hardly the most morally righteous set of people you could work with, some absolute tossers have played the game and done well because of their ability on the pitch and so often, clubs will take the risk and take someone like that on. So either people in football know something we don't or he really is his own worst enemy and constantly gets in his own way.

He definitely has an eye for goal, especially when you look at some of his goal at Peterborough. 
The attitude thing is weird as it has never really been openly reported on, other than it being cited as the reason Newcastle let him go. Since being at Gateshead and Peterborough I cannot recall any stories coming out about him. Like you say maybe people in football know something we don't. Or is it potentially a perceived flaw that he has never been able to shake off? 

He could well be a good example of a player that encapsulates the whole "Moneyball" thesis ("buy what is undervalued"). That being he is hugely undervalued due to a perceived attitude problem.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/cobblers-reject-fourth-bid-goode-curle-insists-clubs-must-meet-his-asking-price-2940270

In case anyone's catching up on Goode, the journo there is saying their asking price is actually over a million now.

Unless he was an U21 superstar I wouldn't be paying over a million for a League 2 CB.

If our second (or third?) bid was at that 750k mark we seemed to initially value him at we might have a call to make on whether we step away or not, either way we need a CB and the best League 1 CBs are priced at seven figures so it's a rough market, wonder if this is where our Goode pursuit ends.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So Moore to Cardiff, Amos to QPR, Gibbo to Norwich, Gnanduillet to Turkey and Second bid for Goode rejected

Rough day for us huh 

Let's hope its not Gazette spin that they weren't really our top targets 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, estonpidge said:

Does anyone think that the Noerthant chairman is telling porkies about not needing the money, seems even Prem teams have been hit under Covid?

 

Northampton since the Cardoza's got bought out (2015) have actually been in a relatively good financial position. Think for the 2017/18 Season (Heavy squad investment that year) they made a £2.2 Million* loss. 2018/19 season they made a loss of £1.7 Million* despite being relegated and having that loss of income. Pre-Covid they were on course to reduce the losses yet again. On top of that any and all debt is internal, so it is only owed to the owners group. I think due to them ultimately winning promotion via the play-offs I think that will help any loss of income in terms of matchday income. 
When it comes down to it though, I get the impression that they will actually sell, I think like most clubs they are trying to get the very best deal. My mate who covers the club for the BBC feels strongly that they will sell him.

*Approximate figures.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Tobermory Whitby said:

Grant Hall has managed 30+ games in only 3 seasons in his career, and another season of 27 games.  So we probably need another 2 CBs.  Why has he managed so few games at 28?

Because I don't think he was a regular starter till he moved to QPR, then he lost 18 months or so to knee tendonitis.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Latest Posts

    • I think people are getting carried away in believing NW will build a potential promotional squad next season, were as I believe he is employed to balance the books with bargain bin players for championship sustainability.  I don’t believe NW signed to ensure promotion only then to walk away if it was achieved, because the squad would need to be rebuilt to maintain its position. Like I said I believe his role is to mop up and leave, which makes sense simply because he is not building for the following season and has nothing to prove or answer for, he trots off into retirement, after balancing the books with  a team that can reasonably compete in a league the town can afford.    
    • I have watched some higlights different angles from the first Swansea goal .. If the ball doesnt deflect off Spence .. It would be off target across the box
    • I agree with all that but I'm talking about next season rather than this one and the parameters that Warnock may have to work with and in the context of some of the names and amount of new players being suggested on here generally. Not wishing to dampen the enthusiasm in any way but I think there will need to be a harsh new financial reality in football generally and with Boro in particular.  I'm speculating that £12M is the absolute minimum wage bill but SG might be willing to find more funds. A full season without gate income at the Riverside, Bulkhaul hit by Brexit and the Hotel closed for the last 12 months will have had a significant hit. Out of the eleven mentioned, Bettenelli, McNair, Hall, Howson, Saville, Bolasie, Akpom, Fletcher, Kebano, Roberts and Assombalonga, six of them, (Bettenelli, Fletcher, Bolasie, Kebano, Roberts and Assombalonga) won't be there and if in the case of Fletcher for example is here it won't be on the same terms. I'm guessing that Hall is nearer the £10K a week purely from reports around the time of his transfer leaving just McNair, Howson and Saville on the bigger salaries. How much we are contributing to Bolasie, Kebano and Bettenelli's wages at the minute I have no idea but it is probably eye watering.
×
×
  • Create New...