Jamie-H 1,322 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: When I posted my stats graphs, I actually compiled the stats for Williams and Mokotjo, neither were particularly standout. What I will say is Williams is only 19 so has plenty of potential. Mokotjo was really poor (statswise). Was that the CDM charts? Because Williams is more of a box to box like the Camarasa type Warnock had at Cardiff he probably doesn't standout in any stat but he has great stamina and energy up and down him and Saville wide of a holding midfielder is probably an ideal Warnock midfield 3. If you asked me for Wigans best 3 players I'd say Robinson, Williams and Moore the lad definitely has talent and is probably worth a 2 million pound fee turns 24 later this year is only going to get better. Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, DanFromDownSouth said: When I posted my stats graphs, I actually compiled the stats for Williams and Mokotjo, neither were particularly standout. What I will say is Williams is only 19 so has plenty of potential. Mokotjo was really poor (statswise). Williams is 23 though Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, TAPOUT said: Where did you get the data for the graphs dan. You should put them up for each we are linked with for comparison. Good work 👍 I've been using WhoScored, which has some very basic metrics on it. It's sounds proper nerdy, but I have been contemplating compiling stats on each championship player! 🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,384 Posted August 15, 2020 Author Share Posted August 15, 2020 Williams is very highly rated. I would be very pleased if we managed to beat Bristol to this one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: I've been using WhoScored, which has some very basic metrics on it. It's sounds proper nerdy, but I have been contemplating compiling stats on each championship player! 🤣 But seriously please do it 😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jamie-H said: Was that the CDM charts? Because Williams is more of a box to box like the Camarasa type Warnock had at Cardiff he probably doesn't standout in any stat but he has great stamina and energy up and down him and Saville wide of a holding midfielder is probably an ideal Warnock midfield 3. If you asked me for Wigans best 3 players I'd say Robinson, Williams and Moore the lad definitely has talent and is probably worth a 2 million pound fee turns 24 later this year is only going to get better. Yeah it was, the graph did show the "defensive" stats for him were pretty all-round ok. Nothing standout like Stewart for tackles and intercepts. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, thatoldchestnut said: Williams is 23 though Yeah you're right, not sure where I got 19 from! Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Is Williams a holding midfielder? It seems this is the position where we are certainly getting linked with players. Amos, Stewart and Glazer all are holding midfielders too? Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Uwe said: Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, DanFromDownSouth said: I'd like to say I don't wear glasses. Which seems to be a common theme in these nerd gifs. Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) On those highlights he seems to be an actual holding midfielder at least pre Wigan. https://www.whoscored.com/Players/255962/Show/Joe-Williams I'd take him, infinite upside at his age potentially on a cut price on his relegation fixed price. Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 640 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I’d love to see a front 4 of: Roberts———Tavernier———Murphy ———————Fletcher——————— 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Adamjr9 139 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: I've been using WhoScored, which has some very basic metrics on it. It's sounds proper nerdy, but I have been contemplating compiling stats on each championship player! 🤣 Isn’t that the way Brentford do it? I remember reading about it all where they have staff compiling loads of data of thousands of different players across the continent to try to find a metric that nobody else has found yet so that they can look at players that have been performing at a high level and are undervalued in relation to their performances and statistics. Obviously it hasn’t gone too badly for them! I’m really interested in that type of thing aswell but I don’t really have the patience to go through so much data. Maybe you should send the club an email once you’ve finished. Might make a bit of a change from over paying on the big names recently 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Adamjr9 said: Isn’t that the way Brentford do it? I remember reading about it all where they have staff compiling loads of data of thousands of different players across the continent to try to find a metric that nobody else has found yet so that they can look at players that have been performing at a high level and are undervalued in relation to their performances and statistics. Obviously it hasn’t gone too badly for them! I’m really interested in that type of thing aswell but I don’t really have the patience to go through so much data. Maybe you should send the club an email once you’ve finished. Might make a bit of a change from over paying on the big names recently 😂 Brentford have taken that approach definitely. The difference is Brentford (and other clubs) have access to statistical software that has 100's of metrics, and drills down the "basic" metrics we see. So things like passes will be spilt into lots of different more details metrics, things like "progressive passes" rather than just a pass. Yeah I'm interested in data and analytics too, which is probably why I've ended up in a career in accounting! 🤣 Not sure club would do much with an email from me with a spreadsheet attached haha! Link to post Share on other sites
Tarmo 39 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, J.T. said: I’d love to see a front 4 of: Roberts———Tavernier———Murphy ———————Fletcher——————— Murphy is more of a RW in't he? Think the other brother is the one that plays predominantly on the left I think he can play both sides though tbf Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now