Changing Times 12,218 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, DanFromDownSouth said: Also full of crap British managers and players. In fact football in general, regardless of nationality, is full of crap players and managers. Exactly, so we should get good ones 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
Weasel 965 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I really want Kevin Stewart. I also have very little faith in our club to get the deal over the line. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Just now, Changing Times said: Exactly, so we should get good ones 🙂 That's not our style though...Bring on Sol Bamba! Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,012 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, TheJew said: It was the key to our recent success though. Karanka came in and changed how everything was done, changed the staff and signed players that a lot of people had never heard of for reasonable money. People like Nsue, Stuani etc. He even convinced Ramirez to come here. The way you get players to come to an unfashionable club when you cannot chuck countless £ notes at them, is to have a manager that they want to play for. I still believe you get more bang for your buck abroad as well, especially on the wage front. Warnock is a good manager, but does he really appeal to the players anymore? Same as Pulis. Stop, you're talking too much sense 1 Link to post Share on other sites
diggerlad07 3,648 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 The club were hopeful for Stewart and 1 more ready for the trip Monday. Unfortunately I don't know the name of the other player and if the deal is still happening or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, LewisBoroPalfrey said: I wish we had a Netflix documentary for the past 2 seasons and this 1 You mean something like Cursed Quicksand What if or Criminal 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 don't worry, all our young players will have amazing seasons, then we can sell them for 20m each and be able to pay the extra wages to convince players to join us... Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 At this point I don't have any optimism anyway so hearing things are drifting really doesn't surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,012 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Uwe said: You mean something like Cursed Quicksand What if or Criminal 🤷♂️ Schitt's Creek? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 There seemed quite high percentage of people on here who did not want Kevin Stewart in 1st place but there is also a high percentage now getting angry that kevin Stewart might not be coming here. This suggests some people are having a meltdown about a player possibly not coming that they did not even want to come. 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheJew said: It was the key to our recent success though. Karanka came in and changed how everything was done, changed the staff and signed players that a lot of people had never heard of for reasonable money. People like Nsue, Stuani etc. He even convinced Ramirez to come here. The way you get players to come to an unfashionable club when you cannot chuck countless £ notes at them, is to have a manager that they want to play for. I still believe you get more bang for your buck abroad as well, especially on the wage front. Warnock is a good manager, but does he really appeal to the players anymore? Same as Pulis. What success? We got promoted with Karanka as manager while he *** everyone off and it all quickly fell apart BEFORE he left. Look at comparable clubs to us who managed to get up and stay up and then call what we did success again. There's all kinds of ways to get players, the idea that it's just down to a manager sounds like mid 90's Boro revisited. You may as well say, look at Burnley, British manager, lots of British players, that's how you get into the Premier League and stay there when you aren't a fashionable club. There isn't one way to do it but the key to it is simply making good decisions. That's all it's about, that's all most things are about really. We've been making crap decisions for a few years and that's the issue. If we'd appointed say Pep Clotet instead of Woodgate, do you think things would have been great? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,398 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TLF10 said: There seemed quite high percentage of people on here who did not want Kevin Stewart in 1st place but there is also a high percentage now getting angry that kevin Stewart might not be coming here. This suggests some people are having a meltdown about a player possibly not coming that they did not even want to come. Obviously. It's even worse if we're a hard sell to players that people consider rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, TLF10 said: There seemed quite high percentage of people on here who did not want Kevin Stewart in 1st place but there is also a high percentage now getting angry that kevin Stewart might not be coming here. This suggests some people are having a meltdown about a player possibly not coming that they did not even want to come. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
xathras 178 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, TLF10 said: There seemed quite high percentage of people on here who did not want Kevin Stewart in 1st place but there is also a high percentage now getting angry that kevin Stewart might not be coming here. This suggests some people are having a meltdown about a player possibly not coming that they did not even want to come. Beat me to it The reality is that majority of players are on free and they will just go to highest bidder Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: What success? We got promoted with Karanka as manager while he *** everyone off and it all quickly fell apart BEFORE he left. Look at comparable clubs to us who managed to get up and stay up and then call what we did success again. There's all kinds of ways to get players, the idea that it's just down to a manager sounds like mid 90's Boro revisited. You may as well say, look at Burnley, British manager, lots of British players, that's how you get into the Premier League and stay there when you aren't a fashionable club. There isn't one way to do it but the key to it is simply making good decisions. That's all it's about, that's all most things are about really. We've been making crap decisions for a few years and that's the issue. If we'd appointed say Pep Clotet instead of Woodgate, do you think things would have been great? The 2 and a half seasons in the Championship and the first part of the season in the Premiership under Karanka. Also some great cup results. That was success. The failure was to not back Karanka in the January transfer window, and then to sack him and replace with Agnew. I honestly believe if Karanka had been left in charge, even if we had been relegated, we would be back in the Premier league by now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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