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1 hour ago, mj south said:

If we played 352 this season would it be feasible to have a midfield 3 of Wing, Browne & Tav?

There's alot of pace and creativity there, I know there's no DM but with having 3 CBs plus wingbacks surly we wouldn't rely on a DM as much?

Just a thought on how we may start the season with what we have

Its not feasible at all.

Tavernier can play CM but IMO still needs an experienced head beside him to guide him for a bit.

If Wing didnt occassionally score from distance he wouldnt be mentioned at all. Of the actual CMs we have he would be last choice.

Browne no. Hes not good enough to play in his first choice position let alone a more key one.

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We are an absolute joke. How can we be this skint that we are struggling to get deals for bang average free agents and League One players over the line? Something is not right and has not been right for years. 

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2 hours ago, TheHolgate said:

Quadruple signing - Betinelli, Gibson, Roberts and errrrr Dwight Gayle ūüėŹ¬†

This place would have a positive meltdown. 

 

Any one of those woud lighten the mood on here

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1 hour ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said:

Because different managers have different opinions?

Then maybe we should stop changing our frigging manager so often? It's absolutely still a valid point in terms of recruitment. You don't just reset after a manager.

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Just now, "KM" said:

We are an absolute joke. How can we be this skint that we are struggling to get deals for bang average free agents and League One players over the line? Something is not right and has not been right for years. 

We're not exactly skint, there's money there for the right players. 

As usual the club is being very stubborn about agent's fees and players taking the mickey with regards to personal terms.

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3 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

We're not exactly skint,  there's money there for the right players. 

As usual the club is being very tight about agent's fees and players taking the mickey with regards to personal terms.

asks mr bean GIF

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1 hour ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

Can you blame Warnock for a signing he didn't make not being considered good enough to be a main part of his plan for the team?  

 

No, you can't blame Warnock at all. That doesn't mean it's not frigging stupid that we've spent £1m and are rumoured to not think he's actually good enough and want to spend the same amount replacing him. It's nothing to do with Warnock, it's the short term gap-filling with little to no thought as to what the next manager might want.

The club don't have a philosophy they want a manager to meet, they want a manager to come in and run business and take the job off their hands. That's unsustainable. If we signed players to fit a philosophy and a manager to also fit that philosophy, we'd spend less time and money buying players we don't need then wanting rid of them.

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6 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

No, you can't blame Warnock at all. That doesn't mean it's not frigging stupid that we've spent £1m and are rumoured to not think he's actually good enough and want to spend the same amount replacing him. It's nothing to do with Warnock, it's the short term gap-filling with little to no thought as to what the next manager might want.

The club don't have a philosophy they want a manager to meet, they want a manager to come in and run business and take the job off their hands. That's unsustainable. If we signed players to fit a philosophy and a manager to also fit that philosophy, we'd spend less time and money buying players we don't need then wanting rid of them.

Or Warnock doesn’t think Pears is good enough to challenge him at the moment and wants a loan keeper for competition. 

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1 minute ago, Borodane said:

Or Warnock doesn’t think Pears is good enough to challenge him at the moment and wants a loan keeper for competition. 

Or maybe Pears is still going to Blackburn?

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7 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Or Warnock doesn’t think Pears is good enough to challenge him at the moment and wants a loan keeper for competition. 

Probably closer to the truth.

out of the two I think Stojanovic is the better keeper, Pears never fills me with confidence when he plays, he just seems to timid.

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1 hour ago, DurhamRed said:

I'm hoping this young data analytics guy we just hired will bring our recruitment into the 21st century. But it will take him abit of time to set it all up 

Sam Jackson?¬† The irony here is we're discussing a new goalkeeper when his previous job was head of research and analytics at World in Motion/GK1 who are "the ‚Äėgo to‚Äô agency for goalkeepers, and for clubs alike when recruiting goalkeeping talent" and were involved in the Stoj signing to begin with. Whilst he worked there.

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If it’s a keeper to be back up to Stoj then that’s fair enough. If it’s to bring in a new number 1 then I still think it’s a waste of a million quid to bring in Stoj in the first place. 
This highlights our short term mindset brilliantly. Let’s say we get a GK who is an old school keeper. Good in the air and commands his box. Brilliant. But, when Warnock inevitably leaves, what if this new keeper doesn’t play the way we are moving forward. For arguments sake, let’s say we make a bold decision and want a sweeper keeper. We then have to get ANOTHER keeper to fit this philosophy. 
I think the problem is we let the managers dictate the way we play, and buy players accordingly. Then when the cycle comes round to getting a new manager, we overturn players.
You could say that this approach is more or less the nature of the beast of football and a new manager, but have we got that luxury with little money going round? I’m not too sure. 
 

Surely there must be a happy medium, where we get players to play the way we want and a manager who fits in with this ethos as well? I hope I’m wrong but it feels a bit like, any player through the door will do a job and a bit square peg in round holes. 
 

For example, we got Ravel in last season, and never played him as a 10? Why have we sanctioned this deal if not to use him for his (imo) best position? We therefore wasted wages etc on him which could have been used elsewhere. 

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39 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

Then maybe we should stop changing our frigging manager so often? It's absolutely still a valid point in terms of recruitment. You don't just reset after a manager.

Easier said than done though, would you have kept any of Monk, Pulis or Woodgate?

Also to be fair I didn't say it was a valid point, it's just a fact that different managers have different ideas. 

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3 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said:

Easier said than done though, would you have kept any of Monk, Pulis or Woodgate?

Also to be fair I didn't say it was a valid point, it's just a fact that different managers have different ideas. 

We never used to get through managers so quickly, its a very recent thing and proves beyond doubt that the club are appointing the wrong managers.
 

Not many on here have been happy with any post Karanka appointment, and you can’t really argue with them, Agnew, Monk, Pulis, Woodgate, Warnock, that’s 5 shocking managers since March 2017.

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