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Not sure why people are having a meltdown about Warnocks team selection. He said before Shrewsbury game he would look to make wholesale changes if we progressed given size of squad.

This idea he was using tonight's team selection to make a point is ridicuoous because he has already made that point previously. And not only has he made it but its been fully accepted by those above so he does not need to repeat it. Its out there and accepted. Just a case of trying to doing something about it which it seems everyone at club is trying.

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5 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

Maybe we need the CB to replace an outbound asset such as McNair?

He is still apparently on Lennon's list at Celtic. Ability wise McNair is probably our best midfielder it's just harnessing him correctly to get consistency from him he should be on the teamsheet every week with his ability the lads strong, got stamina and can pick a pass he just overplays sometimes or plays within himself.

Like I say if the CB we get is a permanent please let it be someone with legs and not a 30+ 6 foot 3+ shithouse we'd be stuck with after Warnock goes.

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7 minutes ago, Jamie-H said:

He is still apparently on Lennon's list at Celtic. Ability wise McNair is probably our best midfielder it's just harnessing him correctly to get consistency from him he should be on the teamsheet every week with his ability the lads strong, got stamina and can pick a pass he just overplays sometimes or plays within himself.

Like I say if the CB we get is a permanent please let it be someone with legs and not a 30+ 6 foot 3+ shithouse we'd be stuck with after Warnock goes.

Considering his last 2 centre back signings have been hall and flint I wouldnt hold my breath!

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25 minutes ago, Neverbefore said:

Considering his last 2 centre back signings have been hall and flint I wouldnt hold my breath!

Tbf he also signed Curtis Nelson last summer who has looked very good for Cardiff.

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55 minutes ago, TLF10 said:

Not sure why people are having a meltdown about Warnocks team selection. He said before Shrewsbury game he would look to make wholesale changes if we progressed given size of squad.

This idea he was using tonight's team selection to make a point is ridicuoous because he has already made that point previously. And not only has he made it but its been fully accepted by those above so he does not need to repeat it. Its out there and accepted. Just a case of trying to doing something about it which it seems everyone at club is trying.

Because he could have played a different system that suited the players he selected but he didn't.  He didn't put them in the best position to succeed and that is *** management.

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For those blaming Warnock for this, take your glasses off and then start looking closer at the clubs recruitment team and the chairman.

The lack of creativity, balance, experience and spine goes back seasons and down to a lack of good recruitment. 

Thus far Warnock has only brought in 3 players and he's gone on record saying we need several more.

The game tonight whilst will upset many was about minutes and Neil said that last night. I don't think he intentionally went to lose but he did say his focus was players with minutes is the main area.

The club does need to address the pace, width and creativity. You'll say we have people like Coulson and Spence etc. But they also don't have the game time and experience we want as a club to move forward. Maybe if a league below but not championship.

It seems a lot of our fans expect us to by splashing the cash but reality is we have budget that doesn't support. 

Interesting times .

 

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1 hour ago, TLF10 said:

Not sure why people are having a meltdown about Warnocks team selection. He said before Shrewsbury game he would look to make wholesale changes if we progressed given size of squad.

This idea he was using tonight's team selection to make a point is ridicuoous because he has already made that point previously. And not only has he made it but its been fully accepted by those above so he does not need to repeat it. Its out there and accepted. Just a case of trying to doing something about it which it seems everyone at club is trying.

mate he playing kids out of position isnt he. dijksteel cb? coulson rwb? are examples. he could easily have played dijksteel rwb coulson lwb. and had paddy fry and wood all start. but he never, he played bola who from what i seen tonight isnt anywhere near coulson or marv's standard. that team tonight was a joke. it was *** tactically from the off. and a moan about fry, *** me he seems to be getting worse all the time. all he does is hoof it.

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with that 11 he started we could have played this:

dijksteel----fry-----wood-----bola

----------morsy -----wing

browne--------tav----------coulson

-----------------fletch

 

just looking at that it seems so much better than that *** 532

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18 minutes ago, Dynamo Kev said:

with that 11 he started we could have played this:

dijksteel----fry-----wood-----bola

----------morsy -----wing

browne--------tav----------coulson

-----------------fletch

 

just looking at that it seems so much better than that *** 532

We're forced to a system because of lack of players, then pick an 11 that doesn't even fit that system it's just so baffling 

Dijksteel isn't defensive enough to play RB with a winger in front but is defensive enough to play CB? 

 

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50 minutes ago, xathras said:

For those blaming Warnock for this, take your glasses off and then start looking closer at the clubs recruitment team and the chairman.

The lack of creativity, balance, experience and spine goes back seasons and down to a lack of good recruitment. 

Thus far Warnock has only brought in 3 players and he's gone on record saying we need several more.

The game tonight whilst will upset many was about minutes and Neil said that last night. I don't think he intentionally went to lose but he did say his focus was players with minutes is the main area.

The club does need to address the pace, width and creativity. You'll say we have people like Coulson and Spence etc. But they also don't have the game time and experience we want as a club to move forward. Maybe if a league below but not championship.

It seems a lot of our fans expect us to by splashing the cash but reality is we have budget that doesn't support. 

Interesting times .

 

You also have to want to sign players that fulfil that criteria and it doesn't seem like Warnock actually wants to.

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1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said:

You also have to want to sign players that fulfil that criteria and it doesn't seem like Warnock actually wants to.

He's clearly been made aware of the secret embargo we have against signing any player that may be remotely exciting, reportedly as punishment for bringing Antonio Barragan and his throw ins back to the prem

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56 minutes ago, xathras said:

For those blaming Warnock for this, take your glasses off and then start looking closer at the clubs recruitment team and the chairman.

The lack of creativity, balance, experience and spine goes back seasons and down to a lack of good recruitment. 

Thus far Warnock has only brought in 3 players and he's gone on record saying we need several more.

The game tonight whilst will upset many was about minutes and Neil said that last night. I don't think he intentionally went to lose but he did say his focus was players with minutes is the main area.

The club does need to address the pace, width and creativity. You'll say we have people like Coulson and Spence etc. But they also don't have the game time and experience we want as a club to move forward. Maybe if a league below but not championship.

It seems a lot of our fans expect us to by splashing the cash but reality is we have budget that doesn't support

Interesting times .

 

Nobody is or ever has expected us to ‘splash the cash’ this summer

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9 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said:

Nobody is or ever has expected us to ‘splash the cash’ this summer

Not only that but we don't even need to splash the cash at all, purely because of our garbage recruitment do people say this

Then they say the area excludes us from signing a lot of players, again a result of our garbage recruitment

Barely any player would see where the majority of our players live and say it's not a nice area, we probably just never get to that stage because the players don't buy into whatever sorry excuse of a club plan/philosophy we try and sell them 

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I beg to differ on the no body expected us to splash cash comment when many fans wanted Gibson and some of the people are quoting murphy and roberts all of which come with a price wage tag? I too would love those players but realistic

I see Warnock addressing the spine all three people brought in are known to either be captain level or talkers.

Is he trying to address the creativity and pace front? Let's see what happens?

I am in no way defending Warnock here. I put the blame of this on recruitment and executive team. 

 

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