Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Sacking Karanka would have been acceptable if we'd hired an actual manager to replace him. Instead we accepted relegation by giving the job to Agnew. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
TheHolgate 675 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The appointment of Monk and then giving him all the parachute money was THE mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Denzel Zanzibar said: Sacking Karanka would have been acceptable if we'd hired an actual manager to replace him. Instead we accepted relegation by giving the job to Agnew. And that’s what made sacking AK an even stupider decision. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: And that’s what made sacking AK an even stupider decision. After the failed Monk experiment SG should have been moving heaven and earth to bring Karanka back. We had the money, as evidenced by how much we paid Pulis! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TheHolgate said: The appointment of Monk and then giving him all the parachute money was THE mistake. Yeah I was never keen on Monk right from the start, I hated the way that he got rid of the Spanish speaking players and bought in a load of overpriced underachievers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Like I said in my big post on this topic, I think it's pretty clear the players respected what he'd done for him. Most of them did, anyway. I think they, like us, never wanted to stop the positivity of what Aitor had built for this club. But the fact is he had lost his nut, that positivity had gone. He had no control any more, everything became far too much for him and he was lashing out left, right and centre. No matter how much they loved and respected him for what he'd done to their careers and what they had been part of, I'm pretty sure they knew it had to end. Like I said, massive weight off their shoulders when he left. Now none of that matters any more. No player bar apparently Downing is going to look back at those years under Karanka now and see anything but how great most of that time was. We all know he made so many of those players better. None of that makes sacking him the wrong decision because how they feel about the past now is almost certainly avoiding the subject of what he was like at his worst. I think the club and the gazette spun things that way, I don’t think that was the whole truth. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 It just felt like Gibson was accepting relegation. Aitor's reign was the best we have had for year's. It ended sour but when it was good it was good and I'd do anything to get back to those good days. The winning mentality he created throughout the club and the togetherness before it unravelled is something I doubt we will see for a long long time. Giving Agnew the job was a disgrace. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
BearSmog 1,382 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 If we don't sign Kevin Stewart I'm blaming Colin Todd! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Just now, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: I think the club spun and the gazette things that way, I don’t think that was the whole truth. Really? I thought it was pretty obvious from his own public appearances that he'd lost it. He didn't need anybody writing stories that way. If I remember rightly the Gazette tried to spin the January window into being positive for a while and maybe that pro-club mentality annoyed him, the club definitely wanted to be seen as doing everything they could for him, i.e. signing players he wanted 1-2 years ago in the Championship as an indicator of 'doing right by him'. That was a load of crap and an expensive load of crap at that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Guy's I appreciate that there is no transfer news, and respect that what you are discussing is important and linked to our current transfer issues. However, could you please move the manager and Gibson discussions to a new thread? All these notifications, with no transfer news are killing me with hope! thanks, no offence intended. Maz 5 Link to post Share on other sites
TheHolgate 675 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Steve Gibson is appalling at picking managers. Appointing Warnock was a no brainer btw Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Back onto transfer news... I was told earlier in the week we were hopeful of having a midfielder sign on Friday. I had assumed it was the lad who went to Bristol City, but looking at it was fella from Hull. He hasnt signed. Maybe the facilities are putting the players off. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TheJew said: Back onto transfer news... I was told earlier in the week we were hopeful of having a midfielder sign on Friday. I had assumed it was the lad who went to Bristol City, but looking at it was fella from Hull. He hasnt signed. Maybe the facilities are putting the players off. Think he's gone to speak to another club and deciding. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheJew said: Back onto transfer news... I was told earlier in the week we were hopeful of having a midfielder sign on Friday. I had assumed it was the lad who went to Bristol City, but looking at it was fella from Hull. He hasnt signed. Maybe the facilities are putting the players off. Doubt it is the facilities. They are probably some of the best in the championship Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, BoroJake said: Doubt it is the facilities. They are probably some of the best in the championship True, maybe its the hotel and golf club they don't like. Link to post Share on other sites
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