edinboro 804 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Because different managers have different opinions? And different goalkeeper coaches. I bet the quality of goalkeeper impacts the strikers as well. Knocking them past poor keepers in training and then facing better in games must be a shock. Link to post Share on other sites
Snowblind 1,711 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, mj south said: If we played 352 this season would it be feasible to have a midfield 3 of Wing, Browne & Tav? There's alot of pace and creativity there, I know there's no DM but with having 3 CBs plus wingbacks surly we wouldn't rely on a DM as much? Just a thought on how we may start the season with what we have Still need bite in the midfield though, even in a 3-5-2. You'd have to have Howson in there to anchor the midfield and help cover the wing backs going forward and to allow Tav the opportunity to go forward more. If anything, the anchoring midfielder is even more important in a 3-5-2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheHolgate 675 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 And I thought signing Armstrong, Branca and Ricard in a day was the norm back in 98. You naive fool. Now the prospect of Fulham's sub keeper gets my juices flowing. 🤯 Link to post Share on other sites
ManBearPig 1,833 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Because different managers have different opinions? But doesn’t that highlight how we have still just wasted a million quid? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: Again recruitment. Why did we sign Stoj if we weren’t going to have him as first choice? We spunked 1m on a second choice keeper and now quibble over giving players an extra 500 quid to their contract. I'm hoping this young data analytics guy we just hired will bring our recruitment into the 21st century. But it will take him abit of time to set it all up Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: But doesn’t that highlight how we have still just wasted a million quid? Erm....no? Stoj was scouted and bought under Woodgate. Clearly the club don't have confidence in Pears being our first choice keeper anytime soon, and neither do I. Warnock saw him and obviously felt he wasn't good enough to be his #1 choice either, else he'd have played him over Stojanovic. If we're now looking for another goalkeeper then obviously Warnock has decided neither Pears not Stoj are good enough. Can you blame Warnock for a signing he didn't make not being considered good enough to be a main part of his plan for the team? Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Just to follow up on Nixon talking about Phillips being too expensive, Blackburns local actually got Phillips asking price from Blackburn a few weeks ago and said it was too much for Blackburn so we do in fact know how much they're asking for... 800k. Last year of his contract, wants to leave and was their player of the season I don't think 800k is far off his market value to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: But doesn’t that highlight how we have still just wasted a million quid? How is it a waste? He's still here, they haven't killed him off Link to post Share on other sites
mj south 610 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Snowblind said: Still need bite in the midfield though, even in a 3-5-2. You'd have to have Howson in there to anchor the midfield and help cover the wing backs going forward and to allow Tav the opportunity to go forward more. If anything, the anchoring midfielder is even more important in a 3-5-2. And this would be why I'm not a coach 😂 Maybe abit too gun ho but trying to think how we could solve our lack of creativity with what we have Link to post Share on other sites
edinboro 804 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm not sure anyone of our midfielders other than Saville can really play in the holding role. He's the one with legs and bite. Neither Howson or McNair can play that role in my opinion. I'm worried about playing 5 at the back at the moment as we don't have 3 senior centre backs. I don't want to start the season with McNair or Howson playing there. Are either Wood or Stubbs ready for a few games there? This is why I think Gibson is taking so much attention. He's key to the formation we want to play. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, edinboro said: I'm not sure anyone of our midfielders other than Saville can really play in the holding role. He's the one with legs and bite. Neither Howson or McNair can play that role in my opinion. I'm worried about playing 5 at the back at the moment as we don't have 3 senior centre backs. I don't want to start the season with McNair or Howson playing there. Are either Wood or Stubbs ready for a few games there? This is why I think Gibson is taking so much attention. He's key to the formation we want to play. That and he's probably the only decent player we may viably get, based on recent failures 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TAPOUT 361 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, edinboro said: I'm not sure anyone of our midfielders other than Saville can really play in the holding role. He's the one with legs and bite. Neither Howson or McNair can play that role in my opinion. I'm worried about playing 5 at the back at the moment as we don't have 3 senior centre backs. I don't want to start the season with McNair or Howson playing there. Are either Wood or Stubbs ready for a few games there? This is why I think Gibson is taking so much attention. He's key to the formation we want to play. I don't think any of our current midfielders can play the holding role. Warnock has said he is looking at midfielders so can see the need. Stewart hasn't gone anywhere yet so I imagine there is interest there still. I think he might go for another also. Added to a physical CF and I think he would be a lot happier. There's always the January window to add width if what we have aren't producing. Link to post Share on other sites
scottpilgrim 28 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mj south said: If we played 352 this season would it be feasible to have a midfield 3 of Wing, Browne & Tav? There's alot of pace and creativity there, I know there's no DM but with having 3 CBs plus wingbacks surly we wouldn't rely on a DM as much? Just a thought on how we may start the season with what we have Its not feasible at all. Tavernier can play CM but IMO still needs an experienced head beside him to guide him for a bit. If Wing didnt occassionally score from distance he wouldnt be mentioned at all. Of the actual CMs we have he would be last choice. Browne no. Hes not good enough to play in his first choice position let alone a more key one. Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,656 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 We are an absolute joke. How can we be this skint that we are struggling to get deals for bang average free agents and League One players over the line? Something is not right and has not been right for years. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Downsouth 6,175 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, TheHolgate said: Quadruple signing - Betinelli, Gibson, Roberts and errrrr Dwight Gayle 😏 This place would have a positive meltdown. Any one of those woud lighten the mood on here Link to post Share on other sites
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