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49 minutes ago, boro-unger said:

I'll give you a clue. It starts with 'Ai' and ends in 'ka'

Aikarumba?

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Shame we didn't bring Karanka back like he seems to be building something at Birmingham.  I would of liked San Jose in our midfield top player.

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23 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

There are far more Boro fans than post on this forum, and Spence has been massively overhyped since he broke through.

He's not done much in a while to justify it, but he's a young player with a bit of pace and I'm more confident in him improving than Johnson.

Spence absolutely played out of his skin against Tottenham. Has been hyped ever since just need him to get consistency to his game as he kinda like Traore was will sprint all the way down the pitch then mess up the cross

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27 minutes ago, Mr_Maz said:

maybe we can finally get Nathan Dyer?

just what we need an aging injury prone player that could replace the aging injury prone players we've just got rid of....not to mention that he has an assist rate of one every eight games, calls Juninho Lofty and one of his forenames is Jonah (never a good omen)... but then Swansea don't want to keep him on, so there couldn't possibly be a reason for that.... mind you it would make a good alteration to thread title....Boro in Dyer Straits ūüôā

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Just now, Old Codger said:

just what we need an aging injury prone player that could replace the aging injury prone players we've just got rid of....not to mention that he has an assist rate of one every eight games, calls Juninho Lofty and one of his forenames is Jonah (never a good omen)... but then Swansea don't want to keep him on, so there couldn't possibly be a reason for that.... mind you it would make a good alteration to thread title....Boro in Dyer Straits ūüôā

sounds like a perfect Boro project for RWB

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29 minutes ago, DurhamRed said:

Spence absolutely played out of his skin against Tottenham. Has been hyped ever since just need him to get consistency to his game as he kinda like Traore was will sprint all the way down the pitch then mess up the cross

That was 8 months ago in a 1 off cup match against a big team.

There have been 26 games since then, and he's not been directly involved in a single goal scored since Boxing Day.

As maligned as Johnson is, he's scored once and assisted 3 in that time, both Spence and Johnson have played in the majority of those games too.

Spence played a fair number of them as an attacking player, rather than a wing back, too.

Neither are up to scratch right now.

 

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In an ideal world neither Spence or Johnson would be in the first eleven, but we're not in an ideal world and nobody is buying our players to give us that extra freedom in the market.

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45 minutes ago, DurhamRed said:

Shame we didn't bring Karanka back like he seems to be building something at Birmingham.  I would of liked San Jose in our midfield top player.

He could sign Myra Hindleys ashes and some Boro fans would still think he's building something special, San Jose is the only half decent signing he's made

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10 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said:

He could sign Myra Hindleys ashes and some Boro fans would still think he's building something special, San Jose is the only half decent signing he's made

Moor or less.

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1 hour ago, LewisBoroPalfrey said:

Wait what am I reading?

We're forced to this wing back formation because we are embarrassingly short in wingers and attacking midfielders and now instead of fixing that, people are advocating for us to sign better wing backs?! 

We may be "forced" to play this formation but why not accept it. It's ok saying we need wingers and attacking midfielders but to play Warnock's favoured 433, at the back (with full backs who'd push on) we would need a specialist left footed CB. Who would you play LB out of Bola, Coulson and Johnson, as none of them can really defend well. So theres a left back. You'd need 3 or more wingers to cover injuries and suspensions. You'd then have Britt, Fletch or Chuba playing up front alone, which doesn't really suit any of them. So you'd probably need another striker.

Admittedly some of these players could be coming from the academy, or some of our players could excel in a different role, but worst case you are looking at 6 signings on top of the 4 we have already made.

Surely its better to take the formation that suits our players better, and improve 2 or 3 positions within it to make the squad stronger.

People talk about 352 like it's dreadful, but it is one of my favourite formations when done correctly. Unfortunately, we seem intent on banging the ball into the channels, which is an absolute waste.

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42 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

In an ideal world neither Spence or Johnson would be in the first eleven, but we're not in an ideal world and nobody is buying our players to give us that extra freedom in the market.

I guess it depends what the ideal world is. If it's just to have the best possible players at any one time, sure. But that costs money so adjusted for our situation, it would absolutely be ideal for us to find a quality young player in our U23 ranks ready to make the step up and build him up to be better. We aren't going to buy anyone significantly better than him.

The frustration with Johnson is a lot of us think we have better than him already in our ranks and he's not getting a chance under this manager. With Spence, his only other challenger is also in the side. 

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@wilsoncgp I believe that Spence isn't ready yet and Dijksteel is currently better, I don't think Johnson is ever going to be a LB/LWB and again Coulson isn't ready yet. If we had the money I think a new LB and another starting CB would allow both Spence and Coulson to develop at more controlled rate, rather than in a baptism of fire.

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5 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

@wilsoncgp I believe that Spence isn't ready yet and Dijksteel is currently better, I don't think Johnson is ever going to be a LB/LWB and again Coulson isn't ready yet. If we had the money I think a new LB and another starting CB would allow both Spence and Coulson to develop at more controlled rate, rather than in a baptism of fire.

Other clubs put young players in and let them adjust and become ready, I don't see an issue with us doing that. It's not something we do enough by my reckoning and far too often buy into the ideal that players need to be ready straightaway, whether that is youngsters or signings

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