Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Cos he's had a couple of ok games there? He was all over the place against Shrewsbury, same as everyone else. I thought he didn't play well against Barnsley either for that matter. He played most of his time as a RB at Charlton didn't he? I know you can't answer this question but if he didn't shine there then why did we buy him in the first place? Because we definitely bought him to play as a right back, and from what I can remember, people were quite happy with his signing last year? he started as DCM IIRC, Bowyer moved him to RB, think he has only played in that position for one full season beforemoving to us 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Rishworthian 166 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Maybe he is in the u 23s as both Isiah Jones and Folarin played but with Hayden Coulson having the no 11 shirt maybe they are taking it seriously as Blackwell and Jepson along with Captain Britt were on the side lines Walker and O'Neill both scored I havn't seen a team sheet but Zach Hemmings was in goal. The defence looked like Dodds, Wood, Sykes and Bola. The midfield had Jones, Folarin, Liddell, Malley and Wing as well as Coulson and as well as the two scorers Burrell got a run out The experience might be a bit limited but the enthusiasm will be overflowing Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Cos he's had a couple of ok games there? He was all over the place against Shrewsbury, same as everyone else. I thought he didn't play well against Barnsley either for that matter. He played most of his time as a RB at Charlton didn't he? I know you can't answer this question but if he didn't shine there then why did we buy him in the first place? Because we definitely bought him to play as a right back, and from what I can remember, people were quite happy with his signing last year? All I said was he was raw at Charlton, which is true. I would imagine we bought him for a combination of factors, age and potential would have been big ones. Dijksteel has been my MOTM in both league games (although Paddy tied with him in the Bournemouth one) and was one of the only people against Barnsley to come out with any credit I felt. We (yet again) clearly are seeing different things when we watch him. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Brunners said: All I said was he was raw at Charlton, which is true. I would imagine we bought him for a combination of factors, age and potential would have been big ones. Dijksteel has been my MOTM in both league games (although Paddy tied with him in the Bournemouth one) and was one of the only people against Barnsley to come out with any credit I felt. We (yet again) clearly are seeing different things when we watch him. No, I thought he did ok against Watford and Bournemouth. I wouldn't have given him MOTM in either game but he definitely did ok in both 👍 To be fair, you said he didn't shine at Charlton, which lead to me asking the question of why we bought him as you'd assume that watching someone not playing well wouldn't be an ideal selling point. It's not as if he has huge experience before Charlton. Also, at least I can tell the difference between him and Spence 😝 #BLM Link to post Share on other sites
diggerlad07 3,692 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Cos he's had a couple of ok games there? He was all over the place against Shrewsbury, same as everyone else. I thought he didn't play well against Barnsley either for that matter. He played most of his time as a RB at Charlton didn't he? I know you can't answer this question but if he didn't shine there then why did we buy him in the first place? Because we definitely bought him to play as a right back, and from what I can remember, people were quite happy with his signing last year? CT I completely agree with you and said as much but you are not going to win this argument. Dijksteel has had 2 okay performances at CB likewise McNair has but they will get found out against the likes of Deeney, Pukki and Moore. I am sick to death of seeing our team trying square pegs in round holes and completely unbalancing the rest of the team. Fry CB and Dijksteel at RB - Its really not hard to see. He can't whinge at having not a good enough squad whilst playing players out of their natural position. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, diggerlad07 said: CT I completely agree with you and said as much but you are not going to win this argument. Dijksteel has had 2 okay performances at CB likewise McNair has but they will get found out against the likes of Deeney, Pukki and Moore. I am sick to death of seeing our team trying square pegs in round holes and completely unbalancing the rest of the team. Fry CB and Dijksteel at RB - Its really not hard to see. He can't whinge at having not a good enough squad whilst playing players out of their natural position. Well there's always a first time for everything I suppose but I'm currently undefeated in arguing, and while Brunners is one of the nicest fellas you could meet, he's a bit of a lightweight really. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
diggerlad07 3,692 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Changing Times said: Well there's always a first time for everything I suppose but I'm currently undefeated in arguing, and while Brunners is one of the nicest fellas you could meet, he's a bit of a lightweight really. He's nice until you mention that Spence isnt good enough and Dijksteel and McNair shouldn't be long term CB's you mean?!?! 😅😅 Link to post Share on other sites
Rishworthian 166 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I notice Harry Kewell has put David Wheater on the naughty step and sent him to play with the under 23s He might be available very cheap Any interest ? Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,482 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rishworthian said: I notice Harry Kewell has put David Wheater on the naughty step and sent him to play with the under 23s He might be available very cheap Any interest ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
sambaDTR 260 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red Rocket said: We've been trying to sign a pacy creative winger since 2009.... You’re forgetting we bought, then sold, the best winger in the world at the moment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said: He's nice until you mention that Spence isnt good enough and Dijksteel and McNair shouldn't be long term CB's you mean?!?! 😅😅 🙄 Spence hasn't played enough football to know if he's good enough really. He's clearly got something about him, but I'm not going to sit here and say he's played particularly well, he hasn't. I just personally don't think we should be writing him off yet. He needs competition though, at the minute he basically knows he's in the team and that will be probably having an effect too I would imagine. As for Dijksteel & McNair. Again, Dijksteel hasn't played near enough for me to judge how he'll do against the "better" strikers but I love the qualities he possesses in the role so want to try him out & McNair has played as a CB plenty of times throughout his career - in fact I believe one of the reasons he moved away from Man U was because they thought he was a CB and he thought he was a CM, was it not? At the very least, he played CB 18 times for Man U in the PL. 1 hour ago, Changing Times said: No, I thought he did ok against Watford and Bournemouth. I wouldn't have given him MOTM in either game but he definitely did ok in both 👍 To be fair, you said he didn't shine at Charlton, which lead to me asking the question of why we bought him as you'd assume that watching someone not playing well wouldn't be an ideal selling point. It's not as if he has huge experience before Charlton. Also, at least I can tell the difference between him and Spence 😝 #BLM See there we go, that's just how we see the game differently. I thought he was the best player on the pitch in both games. And sorry with the didn't shine bit; that is miscommunication on my part, what I meant by that was he didn't really shine playing RB here but I know he was considered raw back at Charlton. I don't remember if he had shone playing RB at Charlton, honestly and I don't have the energy to go look it up. Guilty on the Spence/Dijksteel mishap though; I just saw a number 2 and assumed, which of course is wrong of me. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,496 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, sambaDTR said: You’re forgetting we bought, then sold, the best winger in the world at the moment. Is this sarcasm? Whilst i accept Adama has come on leaps and bounds at Wolves he has never at any point been the best winger in the world. And until he performs at the highest level fairly regularly neither will he be. Performing for Wolverhampton in PL and Europa League does not make you the best in world. There are wingers out there doing it on biggest stage in world football which Adama as of yet has not graced. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, diggerlad07 said: CT I completely agree with you and said as much but you are not going to win this argument. Dijksteel has had 2 okay performances at CB likewise McNair has but they will get found out against the likes of Deeney, Pukki and Moore. I am sick to death of seeing our team trying square pegs in round holes and completely unbalancing the rest of the team. Fry CB and Dijksteel at RB - Its really not hard to see. He can't whinge at having not a good enough squad whilst playing players out of their natural position. To be fair you have no idea if they will be found out, they are both young enough and have the attributes to make a few positions their own. This idea that players need to be finished articles before they can play for us is rubbish, we are a mid level championship side at best. We are picking off scraps and trying to improve players 3 Link to post Share on other sites
boksicdink 1,942 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Rishworthian said: I notice Harry Kewell has put David Wheater on the naughty step and sent him to play with the under 23s He might be available very cheap Any interest ? and we are back on course! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, sambaDTR said: You’re forgetting we bought, then sold, the best winger in the world at the moment. He doesn't even play on the wing for Wolves half the time, Traore is a freak of nature and has done marvellously but not a chance is he the best winger in the world Link to post Share on other sites
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