SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Uwe said: That was all down to Pulis who I’m sure was still trying to keep the goal different down in a knockout match 🤦♂️ It was once again our lack of balance as a side, which continues to be our issue. I am honestly not bothered about the individuals we sign, we just need a balanced united side for once. We were never going to replace Traore, so whoever you compare him with will look bad but equally we just sign far too few wide players. I dont see the issue with having Marv in the squad though, I just dont think hes a great defender Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Still couldnt beat Villa, where we were utter *** in both legs. We ended up just over relying on him anyway Yes I am sure we did over rely on him, but he was still a breath of fresh air. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thatoldchestnut 583 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I have no problems with Johnson being part of the squad at all. If he is a piece in a good fully functioning jigsaw then it's fine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,012 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 We massively relied on him and even with him we were 1 wide player short, so what did we do? Sold him and spent the money on 2 Centre Midfielders 😄 Low scoring, laboured, boring, slow football ever since 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, LewisBoroPalfrey said: We massively relied on him and even with him we were 1 wide player short, so what did we do? Sold him and spent the money on 2 Centre Midfielders 😄 Low scoring, laboured, boring, slow football ever since We havent changed the squad and got a worse manager in, it was inevitable Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Herbivorous said: Yup. There seem to be some assumptions that, because M Johnson has re-signed, the intention is to play him at left back. I'm not at all sure that's the case... I'm not making that assumtion, hes a rubbish winger too. He played 9 games at left back for us. The other 59 appearances hes made at this level have been mostly as a winger with a handful of left wing back games. Hes scored 2 and assisted 5 in those appearances. He didn't have a particularly good record in league 1 or below either. Hes hitting 30. There's just nothing about him thats good enough for this level, regardless of position. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,012 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: We havent changed the squad and got a worse manager in, it was inevitable That was the season just gone, the Pulis one before it we had to endure after we sold Traore and signed no one to replace him That 18/19 season felt worse than 19/20, even though we finished much higher 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) What some ppl forget... Last 8 games was about surviving, not giving talented players game time... Coulson will get his fair share of time, unless we sign a specialist left back.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: I'm not making that assumtion, hes a rubbish winger too. He played 9 games at left back for us. The other 59 appearances hes made at this level have been mostly as a winger with a handful of left wing back games. Hes scored 2 and assisted 5 in those appearances. He didn't have a particularly good record in league 1 or below either. Hes hitting 30. There's just nothing about him thats good enough for this level, regardless of position. We need squad players too & if you hadn't noticed, we are struggling to bring any fresh faces in (although everyone is struggling). He's a low risk, low cost player that Warnock thinks he can continue improving. If it doesn't work it's a one year deal and we move on, but for this season we need the bodies at the minimum. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Marvin Johnson is the equivalent to a new signing. 😁 Link to post Share on other sites
Tobermory 99 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mfcdanny said: You cant build a team around a left back thats for sure. So Warnock isn't gonna change his system that is proven just to accommodate Coulson. I'm not sure I completely agree with the above. I know we are not Liverpool, but Warnock has stated that he wants to play 433. Liverpool's fullbacks, Alexander-Arnold and Roberson got 13 and 12 assists respectively last season, and that's the kind of input you need from fullbacks in a 433. The DCM provides cover for attacking fullbacks. Or should do. Yes I get that those two full-backs exceptional... Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brunners said: We need squad players too & if you hadn't noticed, we are struggling to bring any fresh faces in (although everyone is struggling). He's a low risk, low cost player that Warnock thinks he can continue improving. If it doesn't work it's a one year deal and we move on, but for this season we need the bodies at the minimum. But whats the point if we already know hes not good enough? Coulson is at about the same level for me at the moment. Tav does a good job out there. So the squad element is fulfilled on the left wing, we only needed one good left winger to sort that position - so unless you're happy with coulson or johnson as first choice wingers then I dont get the squad player argument. Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Johnson 613 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Looking like Oliver Skipp will be available for loan from Spurs. Come on Boro get in there!! Link to post Share on other sites
KeithLambsFaxMachine 727 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Marv may not be the best footballer, but at least he gives all he can. In the last few games under Warnock, he was even one of our best outlets. Happy for him to be in the squad, he's deserved a new deal as far as I'm concerned. Worked hard and committed to the cause. I do hope we get an upgrade also, obviously. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: But whats the point if we already know hes not good enough? Coulson is at about the same level for me at the moment. Tav does a good job out there. So the squad element is fulfilled on the left wing, we only needed one good left winger to sort that position - so unless you're happy with coulson or johnson as first choice wingers then I dont get the squad player argument. Neither Tav nor Coulson are wingers for me and we seem to disagree on whether he's good enough to play on the wing, anyway. Like I said, one of the best players start of this season before he got pulled back. Coulson is a left-back and I'm still not convinced any other way about that and Tav is completely wasted hugging the touchline. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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