Downsouth 6,175 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BoroAbroad said: Tav for McNair would be the only change I would like to see. I can't see anything but defeat if I am honest. What will count is by how many goals. Damage limitation is a must. That goal difference could be very important going into the final game of the season. Boro V Cardiff. Away win Hudds V WBA. Away win Charlton V Wigan. Away win Stoke V Brentford. Away win Hull V Luton. Away win PNE V B'ham. Home win A lot is going to depend on what Boro turns up. But looking at the other fixtures I don't expect much change at the bottom of the table. Though I do see Luton gaining some ground which could make the final game of the season a very nervy affair for all involved. I would be very happy if we just shut up shop and got a point from this. Then I believe the weight challenged lady can burst a lung. As a footnote. I disagree with DS. 😉 I do think this game falls into that category. Because the results for other teams this weekend will very much influence what sides those teams in the play off positions put out on the last day. B'ham V Derby. Derby will have nothing to play for so a good opportunity for B'ham. Cardiff V Hull. Cardiff may be secure in a play off place so will field a weakened side. Millwall V Hudd's. Millwall could be suffering a hangover from missing out on the play offs. Forest V Stoke. Same scenario as Cardiff. Luton V Blackburn. Luton could very well win this. A lot of permutations I know. But we are not safe yet. We need a point from this game or it could be a real nail biter next week. The only guarantee is that Monk will throw everything at us. Lots of if's and but's there BA, but we will not be going into the final fixture of the season causing damage to your finger nails! Will be interesting tonight if Barnsley are confirmed as relegated or Leeds promoted (they can be is that correct?) Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Downsouth said: Lots of if's and but's there BA, but we will not be going into the final fixture of the season causing damage to your finger nails! Will be interesting tonight if Barnsley are confirmed as relegated or Leeds promoted (they can be is thaat correct?) I don’t think that Leeds can get promoted tonight. It would put them 5 ahead of West Brom and 6 ahead of Brentford with 2 to play. Brentford have better goal difference so it would be a very funny position for Leeds to fall apart from 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Leeds will need 1 more point i think Link to post Share on other sites
BoroAbroad 321 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Downsouth said: Lots of if's and but's there BA, but we will not be going into the final fixture of the season causing damage to your finger nails! Will be interesting tonight if Barnsley are confirmed as relegated or Leeds promoted (they can be is thaat correct?) Yes I believe it will be. I did not mention Barnsley as I fully expect them to be done for after tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,396 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, BoroAbroad said: Yes I believe it will be. I did not mention Barnsley as I fully expect them to be done for after tonight. Let's hope not! Would absolutely love a Barnsley win. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroAbroad 321 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: Let's hope not! Would absolutely love a Barnsley win. LOL. Yeah well we live in that (hope) as Boro fans. 😁 Link to post Share on other sites
pokeyjoe 110 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 If it ain't broken don't fix it, let's grind a draw out and finish the season Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Interesting interview with Warnock here ahead of the game: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-warnock-interview-cardiff-city-18604073.amp?__twitter_impression=true Funny when he gets talking about Glatzel and him scoring a hat trick against us putting an extra couple million on his pricetag he also confirms the rumours at the time that we were also in for him. What exactly we'd have done with a 6 foot 4 striker I don't know but a clue at how scattershot and impulsive our 'strategy' was last summer. Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernSmoggie 4,223 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Has anybody been clever enough to work out the permutations that COULD relegate us? So I can torture myself and worry. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said: Has anybody been clever enough to work out the permutations that COULD relegate us? So I can torture myself and worry. No! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thomas 501 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said: Has anybody been clever enough to work out the permutations that COULD relegate us? So I can torture myself and worry. Last min equaliser from Hull against Luton will seal our fate anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said: Has anybody been clever enough to work out the permutations that COULD relegate us? So I can torture myself and worry. It would be very difficult. Essentially, one of Hull or Luton are going down, they can't both catch us, the last spot we would need to lose both games AND have all of Charlton, Huddersfield, whoever isn't relegated out of Hull/Luton & Wigan to pick up enough points to hit 50 at least. Not impossible, but unlikely. The maximum points the teams can reach are thus: Barnsley - 49 Luton - 51 Hull - 51 Wigan - 51 Charlton - 53 Huddersfield - 54 BUT, as we noted, Luton & Hull play each other AND Charlton & Wigan play each other. Wigan, Luton & Hull all need to take 6 points out of 6 to jump above us. Charlton & Huddersfield can both leap frog us with just 3 points (Charlton have a 1 better GD than us atm). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
smogsterking the Inspirati 2,453 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said: Has anybody been clever enough to work out the permutations that COULD relegate us? So I can torture myself and worry. We could go into administration We could be found guilty of being caught in a match fixing scandal which explains the form this season 😏 Assuming we dont get another point, Luton and Hull have to win their games, Charlton need a win. Huddersfield need at least 2 points and of a 4 goal swing Birmingham need to better our results including a 5 goal swing. Wigan to not get a points deduction or win both their games. The season could be decided on a raffle Magic We go out of business World War 3 kicks off but the FA have decided we could have fielded a team during the crisis and deduct us the points. I may have missed a couple of scenarios. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, smogsterking the Inspirati said: We could go into administration We could be found guilty of being caught in a match fixing scandal which explains the form this season 😏 Assuming we dont get another point, Luton and Hull have to win their games, Charlton need a win. Huddersfield need at least 2 points and of a 4 goal swing Birmingham need to better our results including a 5 goal swing. Wigan to not get a points deduction or win both their games. The season could be decided on a raffle Magic We go out of business World War 3 kicks off but the FA have decided we could have fielded a team during the crisis and deduct us the points. I may have missed a couple of scenarios. Again worth noting that Luton and Hull cannot both jump above us. It's one or the other. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Lets start with Huddersfield hopefully losing to WBA tomorrow. Just to keep another team below us. Link to post Share on other sites
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