Brunners 7,981 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Against a team that finished three points ahead of us last season, have a brand new manager, and didn't exactly spend a fortune in the summer. Maybe we should have a bit more ambition? okay cool just ignore the incredible form they've started in, that's no problem. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, CrazyL said: Nothing game. Fair result. They had a little bit more quality in the attacking third but Betenelli rarely bothered apart from a good stop first half. Back four solid - personally I like the midfield three the way it is too. Same old problem though in terms of cutting edge. Hopefully the introduction of Roberts will improve things there. Still think we look nailed on for 10th - 16th. Do you think that the first part of that relates to the second part of that? Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, Brunners said: okay cool just ignore the incredible form they've started in, that's no problem. Why aren't we in incredible form is my point mate. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 If we played like that under Pulis then no bugger would be searching for the positives. It was right out of his playbook and people are happy with it now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,915 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: If we played like that under Pulis then no bugger would be searching for the positives. It was right out of his playbook and people are happy with it now. Yep. I am anyway. I thought it was wonderful to watch Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,276 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 We didn't have an isolated forward chasing long balls all game. It was scrappy and we did our better work defending our own goal than going forward but we weren't camped in our half for 90 minutes the way we were sometimes under Pulis. It's not like it's a million miles away from Pulis but it's not as bad as that, IMO. If it gets us up, fair enough. If it doesn't, here's to another wasted season and another summer rebuild. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,618 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Though I'm happy enough with the point, I do think people have been paying Reading too much respect on the basis of 4 games. They're a team that have been in a relegation fight for the last 3 seasons. I don't think they'll be anything above mid table by the end of the season. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
edinboro 815 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Reading are full of confidence. That's obvious. We stopped them playing. We had chances to win the game. We actually scored a goal too don't forget. We are 100% better than last season. Roberts will make us even better. Our defence looked super today I thought. Morsy removes the need for any other defensive midfielder. We are turning this thing round. One game at a time. Keep picking points up and getting better bit by bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: We didn't have an isolated forward chasing long balls all game. It was scrappy and we did our better work defending our own goal than going forward but we weren't camped in our half for 90 minutes the way we were sometimes under Pulis. It's not like it's a million miles away from Pulis but it's not as bad as that, IMO. If it gets us up, fair enough. If it doesn't, here's to another wasted season and another summer rebuild. No, we had two forwards chasing them, and doing next to nothing. It was scrappy, as is every game we play these days. We did our only good work defending, which is exactly how it was under Pulis. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, Blanco said: Yep. I am anyway. I thought it was wonderful to watch Except that you didn't. Link to post Share on other sites
thomas 501 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: We didn't have an isolated forward chasing long balls all game. It was scrappy and we did our better work defending our own goal than going forward but we weren't camped in our half for 90 minutes the way we were sometimes under Pulis. It's not like it's a million miles away from Pulis but it's not as bad as that, IMO. If it gets us up, fair enough. If it doesn't, here's to another wasted season and another summer rebuild. We weren't far off getting relegated last season and 10 months of players been coached by dumb and dumber (proven by small improvements with players that were here last season since they departed), if Warnock gets us mid table surviving comfortably at the end of this season. Surely next season we become automatically more attractive to any transfer who is looking at us and Gibson because of the better league position has more money to give? if that is the case instead of rebuild id give Warnock another go see if he can turn midtable into challenging at the top of the championship.....it wasn't instant success for Karanka either and he had a solid Mowbray squad to start with alot more than Warnock had to start with. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 2,565 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Do you think that the first part of that relates to the second part of that? Do you mean my point? Or are you asking if I think our lack of cutting edge is related to the solidity of our back 7? If it’s the latter then yes I do. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,338 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Yeah, mate, the latter 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,276 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, thomas said: We weren't far off getting relegated last season and 10 months of players been coached by dumb and dumber (proven by small improvements with players that were here last season since they departed), if Warnock gets us mid table surviving comfortably at the end of this season. Surely next season we become automatically more attractive to any transfer who is looking at us and Gibson because of the better league position has more money to give? if that is the case instead of rebuild id give Warnock another go see if he can turn midtable into challenging at the top of the championship.....it wasn't instant success for Karanka either and he had a solid Mowbray squad to start with alot more than Warnock had to start with. Then why is Warnock the manager right now at all? He's only got a year's contract here then by all accounts he's off again. Don't get me wrong, if this was a long term job then that's what it is, you expect a long term contract and a manager given time to build their squad. Except that's not what's happening here. It's another desperate attempt at promotion without the planning. He's a manager with promotion credentials coming in to take us up and that's that. If he doesn't, it's a failure for Warnock, it's a failure by the club for delaying the necessary for another year so they can have another little vanity project with a fella Gibson likes. If we want to take our time and build something then why waste this season in doing that. When the next manager comes in next season, it's gonna be a rebuild and a reformation again when we could be one year down the line with a longer term thing instead. Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,915 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Except that you didn't. Ah but I did. The art of defending is a joy to behold Link to post Share on other sites
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