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5 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said:

Tbh that 1st half was really poor showing I thought, but agree the 2nd half we stepped up the tempo and played some nice football and had more clear cut chances.

Tavernier's challenge was crucial in getting the result yesterday. Had we gone 1-0 down, Coventry would of further parked the bus making it hard for us to break them down.

Totally agree, absolutely vital tackle.

Having said that, before that occurred we should have been 2 or 3 up IMO. No excuses for Morsy missing the target first half & Roberts second half, then of course we had one deflect up onto the bar. 

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50 minutes ago, AnglianRed said:

I don't know about a lack of quality. There are a few teams who, on paper, should be absolutely dominating.

But I think its the same across the leagues, with the lack of crowds to provide an atmosphere and gee up the players. Just look at some of the weird results the PL has thrown up so far. I think Covid is having some effect on that score.

But I agree we do look like a fairly decent side...defensively at least.

We just really struggle to break teams down. To do that you either need to be fast or clever...and we're neither. I mean, we do have a couple of players with pace, but too often they are working on their own and have to hold the ball up (when they don't punt it into empty space, or back to the opposition) - by which time the other side have got their defence organised. 

So we then end up passing it back, sideways and back to the keeper... 🥱😴

So we either need to get better quality wide players and learn to attack at pace as a unit (forwards & midfield), or else acquire some Championship versions of Eden Hazard, or Kevin de Bruyne who can magically find time and space anywhere and pick a perfect pass.

 

 "we need to be fast or clever, and we are neither" Quote of the day AR. I think NW knows that which is why he wanted another option of a big bruising centre forward, but it wasn't to be

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14 minutes ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said:

If by some miracle we go up and Warnock doesn’t fancy the premier League, we’ll need someone who specialises in keeping teams up.
We should have enough money in the bank to reappoint that man, He’d do a good job with the players we have and get them working aard!

I'd almost rather not go up than endure a season under Pulis in the Prem. Take a punt on someone with fresh ideas but still has a bit of experience.

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I enjoyed last night !  It was entertaining reading the comments about how Spence was rubbish and so was Britt.  It is interesting that these are precisely the two guys who scored.  I'm very happy for the team and for both individuals.

I was very surprised that we took off Tavernier but the lad has worked hard for a lot of games now and probably deserved a bit of a rest.  The fact that he was replaced by Browne who provided an assist to add to his goal means that he has probably our best attacking stats on very limited minutes.  He could be one of those guys who just makes or scores goals a bit like an older version of Burrell.

Which leads me to wonder if Paddy Roberts is a luxury item.  Hey,  he's great to watch, exciting but is he effective ?  Does he score goals ?  Does he supply assists ?

Could the Warnock magic team be producing players who fill the gaps that they thought we had but some are stepping up to the plate and taking their chances.  Are many more of the under 23s coming up to surprise us all.  I certainly hope so

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1 hour ago, DevKWat said:

Out of pure hypothesis, say Neil pulls off the impossible and takes us up. Do we think he gives it a go or walks off into the sunset cementing himself as a Football League Legend and Boro hero?

I ask purely because of age etc and I’ve seen him say he doesn’t like the Premier League

I'm sure a part of him wishes he'd rode off in to the sunset after getting Cardiff promoted, especially with the Sala tragedy and arguably being robbed of safety by incompetent officials against Chelsea.

If he got us promoted, I'd be fine with whichever route he chose. If he stayed on, he'll have more than earned the chance to try and keep us up, if he walked then he's definitely earned the right to end his career on a huge high. 

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I wouldn't be too shocked either way but I suspect if we do get promoted, he'd want to have one last go in the Prem.

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16 minutes ago, Rishworthian said:

I enjoyed last night !  It was entertaining reading the comments about how Spence was rubbish and so was Britt.  It is interesting that these are precisely the two guys who scored.  I'm very happy for the team and for both individuals.

I was very surprised that we took off Tavernier but the lad has worked hard for a lot of games now and probably deserved a bit of a rest.  The fact that he was replaced by Browne who provided an assist to add to his goal means that he has probably our best attacking stats on very limited minutes.  He could be one of those guys who just makes or scores goals a bit like an older version of Burrell.

Which leads me to wonder if Paddy Roberts is a luxury item.  Hey,  he's great to watch, exciting but is he effective ?  Does he score goals ?  Does he supply assists ?

Could the Warnock magic team be producing players who fill the gaps that they thought we had but some are stepping up to the plate and taking their chances.  Are many more of the under 23s coming up to surprise us all.  I certainly hope so

I hope you are not trying to justify Britt and Spence performance because they scored a goal? That type of analysis is exactly why majority fans are so thickle.

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1 hour ago, AnglianRed said:

I don't know about a lack of quality. There are a few teams who, on paper, should be absolutely dominating.

A few seasons ago, that was us! We were the bookies' favourites to go up, we had a squad of quality players like Randolph and Traore, and we totally ballsed it up. Lesser squads went up instead because they had team spirit and confidence from winning.

The strongest squads might yet come good, but I'm not seeing any standout teams this season, however good they look on paper. Reading are thoroughly mediocre (and paying over 200 per cent of their revenue in wages, lest we forget) and they're top of the league. 

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1 minute ago, diggerlad07 said:

I hope you are not trying to justify Britt and Spence performance because they scored a goal? That type of analysis is exactly why majority fans are so thickle.

If you take away Spence's goal this was still by far his best performance of the season, and the fans know the deal with Britt by now he doesn't really offer much until he puts the ball in the back of the net.

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1 hour ago, DevKWat said:

Out of pure hypothesis, say Neil pulls off the impossible and takes us up. Do we think he gives it a go or walks off into the sunset cementing himself as a Football League Legend and Boro hero?

I ask purely because of age etc and I’ve seen him say he doesn’t like the Premier League

I think a lot would depend on the financial situation (i.e. how much Gibson was prepared to let him spend).

If he thought he was in for a season of struggle I'm fairly sure he'd call it a day. If, on the other hand, he was allowed to assemble a squad not too different to what we had under McLaren, I think he might fancy it.

As you say, there is also his age, health and personal circumstances to consider.

Ideally I would hope Gibbo might actually look to bring in a top class manager, either with PL experience, or of managing in a top division in Europe.

 

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4 minutes ago, Foogle said:

If you take away Spence's goal this was still by far his best performance of the season, and the fans know the deal with Britt by now he doesn't really offer much until he puts the ball in the back of the net.

I think Britt has shown under Warnock at the end of last season that he has plenty more to offer than just playing on the last man and living or dying on receiving the ball in the box. That's why I've been so disappointed with his start to the season. But in one move last night, he came deep for once and helped us get up the pitch and dragged their defence out of position. There were one or two noticeable runs he had made that never came off before the goal too. He improved during the game last night and I hope it's a sign things are picking up for him now.

I'm not sure about it being Spence's best performance but I also think there's something in the idea he may not be a wing-back/winger because he's not particularly good when receiving the ball standing still, he does his best work running onto the ball and picking up pace before he receives it, which was noticeably what he found himself doing to score his goal.

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9 minutes ago, Foogle said:

If you take away Spence's goal this was still by far his best performance of the season, and the fans know the deal with Britt by now he doesn't really offer much until he puts the ball in the back of the net.

I thought Spence was pants! Admittedly, it's not his fault that he was being played on the left, but he's been bad on the right for a while now too.

Doesn't cross, doesn't beat players, doesn't arrive in the box. Also not the best defender. No way is the guy a lost cause though and I hope he finds that spark he had when he broke into the first team. 

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20 minutes ago, Foogle said:

If you take away Spence's goal this was still by far his best performance of the season

Take away his goal and he was totally rubbish last night.

Struggled to control the ball, frequently lost it, barely took on a man, passed poorly, and crossed poorly on the rare occasions he didn't turn and try to pass it back.

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6 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

I'm not sure about it being Spence's best performance but I also think there's something in the idea he may not be a wing-back/winger because he's not particularly good when receiving the ball standing still, he does his best work running onto the ball and picking up pace before he receives it, which was noticeably what he found himself doing to score his goal.

I mean this seasons bar isn't set very high, I'm not saying he was man of the match or anything just that he'd be worthy of a place in the starting 11 for me if he puts in a shift like that every week and hopefully that well taken goal will give him the confidence to kick on after an awful start to the season.

Fry was the man of the match for me he's been an absolute rock since coming back into the team, he's playing so much better as the central player in a 3, I looked it up after the game and he made 8 interceptions and won 12 of 14 aerial duels last night.

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10 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said:

I thought Spence was pants! Admittedly, it's not his fault that he was being played on the left, but he's been bad on the right for a while now too.

Doesn't cross, doesn't beat players, doesn't arrive in the box. Also not the best defender. No way is the guy a lost cause though and I hope he finds that spark he had when he broke into the first team. 

I do wonder whether CT might be on to something (makes me feel queasy even typing that, ugh) when he said that Spence just isn't a winger or RWB. Wonder if we'd start seeing more out of him if we had him at RB again.

He just looks scared to take anyone on, it's really weird. He still beats them 9 times out of 10 when he does actually try, although he usually screws up the cross anyway.

There's 100% a player there, I just don't know what's up with him.

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