boro-unger 3,870 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Redcar Rioja said: I tend to agree but "Moneyball" where you buy low and sell high is much preferable to "Ballache" where you buy high and sell low or wait until contracts expire because even low isn't low enough. Thats "Boroball"... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,642 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I would abolish penalties. They decide so many games and they're a huge overkill punishment often for very minor incidents. Liverpool won the Champions League because the ball whilst going away from goal touched a player's hand at the edge of the box after 24 seconds. In no way did it prevent a goal, so it's ridiculous that the punishment for an innocuous incident is a free shot on goal. I'd accept it staying in place for a blatant last man challenge where they don't get the ball, but the majority of penalties are given for incidents that wouldn't have actually led to a goal if the "foul" hadn't happened. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Warnocks constant abuse and shouting at referees, players and opposition staff is not charming or funny - it's rude, classless and embarassing. Latest of which is the video going around Twitter of him at the u23 game yelling and swearing at a ref who probably does it for fun at the weekends with little to no professional qualifications. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: Warnocks constant abuse and shouting at referees, players and opposition staff is not charming or funny - it's rude, classless and embarassing. Latest of which is the video going around Twitter of him at the u23 game yelling and swearing at a ref who probably does it for fun at the weekends with little to no professional qualifications. It was reffed by Andrew Miller, a professional referee that refs PL2 and National League games. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Brunners said: It was reffed by Andrew Miller, a professional referee that refs PL2 and National League games. Ah well that's okay then, he clearly deserves it 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: Ah well that's okay then, he clearly deserves it 🙃 Don't make an argument with a fact that isn't true 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Argument to be made for what position he comes from when levelling the abuse but refs get just as much, if not worse, from fans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,976 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, TeaCider24 said: I would abolish penalties. They decide so many games and they're a huge overkill punishment often for very minor incidents. Liverpool won the Champions League because the ball whilst going away from goal touched a player's hand at the edge of the box after 24 seconds. In no way did it prevent a goal, so it's ridiculous that the punishment for an innocuous incident is a free shot on goal. I'd accept it staying in place for a blatant last man challenge where they don't get the ball, but the majority of penalties are given for incidents that wouldn't have actually led to a goal if the "foul" hadn't happened. I'd agree with that and whilst we are at it change the offside rule to 60% or even 70% of a players body has to be offside and not a slightly protruding elbow, index finger or shin pad. VAR decisions have reduced the law to a level for which it was never intended or envisaged. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
smogsterking the Inspirati 2,490 Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 American Football terms being used in football. Offence and DEEfence being some terms pundits have used and now footballers being described as playing the quarter back role. Some of my friends have been infected with this bug. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoyteForLeftBack 194 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 People saying “hence why“ in football interviews. or in any walk of life 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 284 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I really like Roy Keane now. I find his cut throat attitude absolutely hilarious. Some of the punditry he's done is quality. They don't make em like that anymore. I absolutely despised him in his playing days though. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Brunners said: Don't make an argument with a fact that isn't true 🙃 I didn't use that as my arguement, I used it as an example and said probably so I wasn't presenting it as a fact. Besides if you're mostly reffing at non league level you're not going to be a professional, there's no way refs at that level can live off what they earn down there, the players barely can. Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 857 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Redcar Rioja said: I'd agree with that and whilst we are at it change the offside rule to 60% or even 70% of a players body has to be offside and not a slightly protruding elbow, index finger or shin pad. VAR decisions have reduced the law to a level for which it was never intended or envisaged. Trouble is, that would still leave the endless delays whilst the VAR ref tried to work out whether 59% or 61% of the player was offside! The offside rule was conceived when current technology wasn’t dreamed of. There only three options to stop the current method ruining the game 1. abolish offside 2. abolish VAR. (at least for offside decisions) 3. modify the way it is used. The VAR ref should be shown the still of the offside and have to decide within 15 seconds whether it is offside or not. (without lines being drawn preferably). If he can’t decide, then the original decision stands. Sure, there will be some wrong decisions, but at least the game wouldn’t be stopped for 3 or 4 minutes whilst lines are drawn and the incident replayed repeatedly. I actually think that should be the default for all VAR decision. A limited time look and no change to the refs decision unless the VAR official thinks it is clearly wrong. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Liquid said: I really like Roy Keane now. I find his cut throat attitude absolutely hilarious. Some of the punditry he's done is quality. They don't make em like that anymore. I absolutely despised him in his playing days though. Him and Micah are gold at the moment. Just know it's going to be milked to the death and become as annoying as everything else. Oh another one - "and it's live" from Martin Tyler. Of course it's live you idiot, you're not going to pre record it Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,976 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ScarBoro said: 2. abolish VAR. (at least for offside decisions) 3. modify the way it is used. The VAR ref should be shown the still of the offside and have to decide within 15 seconds whether it is offside or not. (without lines being drawn preferably). If he can’t decide, then the original decision stands. Sure, there will be some wrong decisions, but at least the game wouldn’t be stopped for 3 or 4 minutes whilst lines are drawn and the incident replayed repeatedly. I actually think that should be the default for all VAR decision. A limited time look and no change to the refs decision unless the VAR official thinks it is clearly wrong. Better still scrap VAR as you say but have a fifth Official (Retired Referee) sat in the stands with a TV monitor and let him relay incidents to the Ref as and when like off the ball elbow incidents, dubious offsides and anything else without the game being interrupted unless for a really serious incident that was missed. Link to post Share on other sites
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