boro_fan_in_brum 604 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I'm not stressing too much on this season, it's January and NW has maybe got the sort of team he wants, I'd be happy with knocking on the door if the play offs and going for it next season. Obviously I'd like to see us play nice football but this year is just building with the view to challenging next season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroSmoggie 2,678 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Normally wouldn’t really feel confident with that team, but we are playing Derby and they are ***, so hopefully the miss of Fry isn’t to important. Think they’ve only scored something like 7 goals from open play this season. (sorry) Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hope Watmore steps up today as ever since he got contact he's played worse 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Don’t get the complaining about the midfield 3. It’s top notch for this division. Saville to get on the scoresheet today Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Blanco said: Don’t get the complaining about the midfield 3. It’s top notch for this division. Saville to get on the scoresheet today I think it's because Warnock has more options to drop a midfielder and go for a more offensively minded line-up, but still hasn't. Against a Derby team placed 22nd in the League you'd expect we would play with more than 3 "attacking" players. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Does anyone know extent of Bolasie injury? Has there been any updates. Sorry if it has been mentioned in previous post but my internet is playing up and its took me 10 minutes to get this far. I am now hoping this message sends. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,228 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Blanco said: Don’t get the complaining about the midfield 3. It’s top notch for this division. Saville to get on the scoresheet today It's so imbalanced, for me. You've got Howson sat in front of the defence but he's also the most creative player in there, certainly the best player on the ball but he's also not in any way a 'Pirlo' kind of player. Saville is feisty and I actually like him in there as I think he can bag the odd goal here and there too but he's not particularly creative, nor is he good coming forward with the ball, he's a pretty awkward dribbler. But Morsy in particular, what is he there for? His best attributes when playing for Wigan were playing in the same position Howson does now, weren't they? But we have him playing box-to-box when he's absolutely rubbish at the top end of the pitch. His shooting is atrocious and he's had plenty of chances this season. Also, he's either sitting and helping Howson out and getting daft bookings despite having the game in front of him or he's too far up the pitch, contributing very little up there and leaving gaps behind him. He can't win and I don't even think it's really his fault, I think we're selling him a bit short to be honest. It feels like to me when watching them that we're asking them sometimes to do jobs they're not particularly good at doing. Which makes them look worse as individual players and then worse as a unit. I think there's more than enough individual qualities in each of them to make a decent midfield two out of any two of them and we could sacrifice them getting forward as much in order to put an extra man closer to the striker who's actually better with the ball at his feet. Watmore, Kebano, Tav, I think any of them could play in front of a duo involving Howson, Sav and/or Morsy. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: I think it's because Warnock has more options to drop a midfielder and go for a more offensively minded line-up, but still hasn't. Against a Derby team placed 22nd in the League you'd expect we would play with more than 3 "attacking" players. Warnock wants to play 433, he has since he got here. I suspect with the way our midfield plays, if you were to ask him he would consider Saville as an attacking player too and arguably probably the other CM, who for some reason is usually Morsy. He's not going to change formation now he's got enough players to play his 433. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokedsalmon 1,247 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Blanco said: Don’t get the complaining about the midfield 3. It’s top notch for this division. Saville to get on the scoresheet today Top notch! Can't string 2 passes together between them. No control of the midfield, no pace, no goals. Dire! Link to post Share on other sites
sackrobson2 371 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Blanco said: Don’t get the complaining about the midfield 3. It’s top notch for this division. Saville to get on the scoresheet today I’d be interested to know our win /draw/loss stats with those three playing together. It feels to me like they will be worse than where we are at. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said: It's so imbalanced, for me. You've got Howson sat in front of the defence but he's also the most creative player in there, certainly the best player on the ball but he's also not in any way a 'Pirlo' kind of player. Saville is feisty and I actually like him in there as I think he can bag the odd goal here and there too but he's not particularly creative, nor is he good coming forward with the ball, he's a pretty awkward dribbler. But Morsy in particular, what is he there for? His best attributes when playing for Wigan were playing in the same position Howson does now, weren't they? But we have him playing box-to-box when he's absolutely rubbish at the top end of the pitch. His shooting is atrocious and he's had plenty of chances this season. Also, he's either sitting and helping Howson out and getting daft bookings despite having the game in front of him or he's too far up the pitch, contributing very little up there and leaving gaps behind him. He can't win and I don't even think it's really his fault, I think we're selling him a bit short to be honest. It feels like to me when watching them that we're asking them sometimes to do jobs they're not particularly good at doing. Which makes them look worse as individual players and then worse as a unit. I think there's more than enough individual qualities in each of them to make a decent midfield two out of any two of them and we could sacrifice them getting forward as much in order to put an extra man closer to the striker who's actually better with the ball at his feet. Watmore, Kebano, Tav, I think any of them could play in front of a duo involving Howson, Sav and/or Morsy. This is the one thing that confuses me with this midfield. IMO it would look 100x better if you swap Howson and Morsy as Morsy can clean up and Howson is infinitely better with the ball at his feet than Samy is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,870 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think in Warnock's mind he can push Saville up with the belief he can get goals (lets face it he seems to be getting on the end of more balls into the box than Britt at the moment) while at the same time withdraw him to scrap and battle. Another factor may be that with Fry out he maybe wants the midfield to form a shield. I'm more concerned about Bettinelli and Britt than I am Saville. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JMC91 280 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Everyone else got Radio Derby on the stream? I thought we'd got Tees back for away games now, might be wrong though? Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,396 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JMC91 said: Everyone else got Radio Derby on the stream? I thought we'd got Tees back for away games now, might be wrong though? It's still home commentary only for the foreseeable. Not bothered this week, BBC Tees was shocking against Brentford. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, JMC91 said: Everyone else got Radio Derby on the stream? I thought we'd got Tees back for away games now, might be wrong though? Nope for all away games we have their commentary as BBC don't want the commentary teams traveling Link to post Share on other sites
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