TeaCider24 12,401 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Bristol City have sacked their manager. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said: Dangerous and reckless play is the law which means red. Brantwaite's was clearly that Mcnair was clearly that To pull the rule up again, a referee can send off a player for Serious Foul Play and so... SERIOUS FOUL PLAY A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. I'd say from what I saw of it, he was lunging in and he was going in with force. So I'm not convinced it gets overturned but I really need to see it back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: Bristol City have sacked their manager. Not surprised going into tonight they'd lost 5 on the bounce. Plus had real patch form during December too. Link to post Share on other sites
Old Codger 3,039 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Although we were really struggling at the end, I will take the three points because on balance I think we deserved them. At least three of our players, Fletch, Neeskens and Fisher ran out of steam after 60 minutes and that was when tide turned and it began to resemble a remake of Zulu. Bettinelli had a half-decent game by his standards and definitely intended the reflex save but he is still too weak for my liking. Watmore seems to be getting his mojo back and shows what persistence can get you, Paddy card probably right by letter of the law, but no intent to harm in my eyes, so worth appealing, especially if ref going by word of linesman as he was seeing it from a very poor position with Paddy facing towards centre of pitch. Hall was effective when required and thought Bola had reasonable game but Dijksteel looked as though he was struggling a bit though maybe I am judging him on the standards from before his injury. If Fry and Tav are fit enough, would put them at least on bench at weekend and depending on circumstances give them some minutes at the end. Main thing is three points. UTB Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,872 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said: To pull the rule up again, a referee can send off a player for Serious Foul Play and so... SERIOUS FOUL PLAY A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. I'd say from what I saw of it, he was lunging in and he was going in with force. So I'm not convinced it gets overturned but I really need to see it back. Like yourself I'd need to see it again but it looked to me like the Huddersfield player had lost the ball (or it had broke away from him) and McNair just made sure it was cleared. Watching it in real time it just looked like a determined clearance to me, the thought of a free kick never entered my mind let a lone a yellow and heaven forbid a red. Usually when watching games you get that little anal twitch when you see a tackle flying in and you just sense and know (like Morsy's booking earlier) instinctively but I genuinely didn't even think free kick! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redcar Rioja said: Like yourself I'd need to see it again but it looked to me like the Huddersfield player had lost the ball (or it had broke away from him) and McNair just made sure it was cleared. Watching it in real time it just looked like a determined clearance to me, the thought of a free kick never entered my mind let a lone a yellow and heaven forbid a red. Usually when watching games you get that little anal twitch when you see a tackle flying in and you just sense and know (like Morsy's booking earlier) instinctively but I genuinely didn't even think free kick! Yeah you weren't on your own there, a lot of people seem to think it wasn't even a free kick so maybe that's why there's so much outrage over the red card but I could really do with a better view of it myself. Like you say, the Morsy one made me feel similar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edinboro 804 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Fry will definitely be playing at Reading. After tonight hard to change any of Watmore, Kebano and Fletcher. Assuming McNair is banned might be Fry for McNair. Dijksteel to right back. Kebano and Tav on the wing. Watmore and Fletcher up front perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Not a red in my eyes. Perhaps another angle would clear it up though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Are people really blaming Betinelli for the goal? Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 836 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 9 hours ago, wilsoncgp said: To pull the rule up again, a referee can send off a player for Serious Foul Play and so... SERIOUS FOUL PLAY A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. I'd say from what I saw of it, he was lunging in and he was going in with force. So I'm not convinced it gets overturned but I really need to see it back. Looks clear as a rule doesn’t it? However, what happens when the ball is loose and the player “lunges” at the ball and the opponent moves across to try to recover it? The tackler hasn’t lunged at the opponent, but ends up getting opponent as well. seems to me that’s what happened last night. Ball had been knocked sideways by opponent and McNair saw it clearly and did lunge in a bit to get it. Opponent tried to recover at same time and ended up where McNair was sliding in. I think it is one of those that could go either way. Depends maybe what ref puts in report. If he didn’t really see it and relied on assistant then assistant was a poor angle and distant to see intent and whether the lunge was at the player. If ref did see it, then why didn’t he send him straight off or issue a yellow card. He obviously wasn’t sure himself, which must help in any appeal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,401 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Still don't think it's a red card, or a foul, but some of the still photos make it look worse than it is. I'm not sure it will be overturned, though it should be. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looks like Paddy wins the ball with his shins to me, no contact directly with the player, both feet sliding low to the ground making contact with the ball. even a foul is a harsh decision. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Scrap that... Picture give's you an idea of why he was given a red. Picture taken from FMTTM. Edited February 17, 2021 by Humpty 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Yeah that's not getting overturned Link to post Share on other sites
nunthorpered 1,920 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Humpty said: Are people really blaming Betinelli for the goal? Although he looked a bit shaky in parts, i thought he made quite a few key saves in the game to keep us in it 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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