Blanco 4,900 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Wait, does it still count if it's directed at Blanco? 😲 Not from you CT. You have a free pass 😃 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,213 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 If I wrote a post that said, 'I don't like foreigners, they are all smelly', I assume that at least some people would see that as a bit offensive, even if it's almost certainly the case with SmogDane. Similarly, if I wrote a post saying, 'British people are much better than foreigners', that would be seen as a touch xenophobic, even if I am living proof of the absolute truth of this. So why is this kind of discussion even taking place? The issue isn't about British or foreign ownership, it's about good or bad ownership/direction/call it whatever you want, and that isn't determined by nationality. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,213 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blanco said: Not from you CT. You have a free pass 😃 Phew! Thank God for that 🙏 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Changing Times said: If I wrote a post that said, 'I don't like foreigners, they are all smelly', I assume that at least some people would see that as a bit offensive, even if it's almost certainly the case with SmogDane. Similarly, if I wrote a post saying, 'British people are much better than foreigners', that would be seen as a touch xenophobic, even if I am living proof of the absolute truth of this. So why is this kind of discussion even taking place? The issue isn't about British or foreign ownership, it's about good or bad ownership/direction/call it whatever you want, and that isn't determined by nationality. I was thinking that earlier when someone used the phrase “faceless foreign owner”. My wife is foreign and she’s got a very nice face thank you very much, so much xenophobia on this forum lately. Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 @Kelloe what's with the confused reactions on all of my posts mate? Is reading comprehension difficult for you? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,213 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said: @Kelloe what's with the confused reactions on all of my posts mate? Is reading comprehension difficult for you? He does the same on mine as well. He used to do angry faces on them all but I started mentioning it on the forum so he changed to confused ones. I was hoping he might go for the hearts next to make me feel loved. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,213 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: I was thinking that earlier when someone used the phrase “faceless foreign owner”. My wife is foreign and she’s got a very nice face thank you very much, so much xenophobia on this forum lately. I'm sure that all of her bits are as delightful as any woman born in Blighty 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Changing Times said: I'm sure that all of her bits are as delightful as any woman born in Blighty 👍 Well you know what they say about Brazilians. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Just now, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: Well you know what they say about Brazilians. Neatly trimmed???? 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Blanco said: Neatly trimmed???? 😁 I’ll set ‘em up, you knock them in Blanco. Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: I’ll set ‘em up, you knock them in Blanco. Why thank you kind sir 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,398 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Changing Times said: If I wrote a post that said, 'I don't like foreigners, they are all smelly', I assume that at least some people would see that as a bit offensive, even if it's almost certainly the case with SmogDane. Similarly, if I wrote a post saying, 'British people are much better than foreigners', that would be seen as a touch xenophobic, even if I am living proof of the absolute truth of this. So why is this kind of discussion even taking place? The issue isn't about British or foreign ownership, it's about good or bad ownership/direction/call it whatever you want, and that isn't determined by nationality. Because these discussions are always spurred on by people, and I don't just mean on here, specifically asking for a foreign takeover when they see another club taken over, regardless of who the takeover is by. Saw dozens of people saying it when Barnsley were taken over after their owner sadly became terminal (arguably not the best example as it's going very well for them right now). British owners aren't intrinsically better or worse than foreign owners, and foreign owners aren't intrinsically better or worse either. I've dove in to the thread late on, so I've not actually followed the initial discussions, but the first post I saw was requesting Sunderland's new owner to take us over, despite there being absolutely no evidence of him being successful as an owner there yet. That was swiftly followed by a post praising the owners of Leeds, Villa and Wolves, so I assumed that was the direction of the conversation in the thread. Edited February 28, 2021 by TeaCider24 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: I was thinking that earlier when someone used the phrase “faceless foreign owner”. My wife is foreign and she’s got a very nice face thank you very much, so much xenophobia on this forum lately. I think that particular phrase is generally used for absentee overseas owners, who rarely if ever actually come to watch the club they bought and are happy to do what they need to do over the phone / internet. The kind of owner that just treats a club like another asset in their portfolio. I don't think its meant to be an insult to foreigners in general. I mean you could have a faceless British owner, if they did the same thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: I've dove in to the thread late on, so I've not actually followed the initial discussions, but the first post I saw was requesting Sunderland's new owner to take us over, despite there being absolutely no evidence of him being successful as an owner there yet. His old man used to own Marseille when they were half decent. Obviously that doesn't mean that the son will be successful, but there is certainly pedigree and expertise he can call upon. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,398 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: His old man used to own Marseille when they were half decent. Obviously that doesn't mean that the son will be successful, but there is certainly pedigree and expertise he can call upon. It's not something I'd find overly reassuring, personally. I don't actually know anything about him except for the fact he's 4 years younger than me, but his Dad being a successful owner doesn't mean he would be. Could make a similar argument for Gibson if his daughter was his successor as owner, I'd not be immediately confident in her just because of Gibson's stewardship, though if it were to happen I'd hope that she'd be a good owner. Link to post Share on other sites
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