TeaCider24 12,407 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Football Insider is saying we're leading the chase for Mpanzu still. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballinsider247.com/sources-middlesbrough-lead-blackburn-in-ruddock-chase-after-he-quits-luton-town/%3famp Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) An engine room of Mpanzu and Morsy would be solid. If we do pull off Mpanzu and Payero it would make a change from last summer in that we actually got our first choice targets! Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jamie-H said: An engine room of Mpanzu and Morsy would be solid. If we do pull off Mpanzu and Payero it would make a change from last summer in that we actually got our first choice targets! If you listen the recent Boro Breakdown Podcast they break down Mpanzu's stats against our current midfielders and he's not an improvement according to them. I'm not saying I agree based on stats but to me Morsy is just as good if played in his natural position. But as @Brunners pointed out to me we could play two natural cdms. 4231. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: If you listen the recent Boro Breakdown Podcast they break down Mpanzu's stats against our current midfielders and he's not an improvement according to them. I'm not saying I agree based on stats but to me Morsy is just as good if played in his natural position. But as @Brunners pointed out to me we could play two natural cdms. 4231. The advantage to two natural CDMs is it would let you have someone like Bahamboula who maybe isn't very good off the ball on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Brunners said: The advantage to two natural CDMs is it would let you have someone like Bahamboula who maybe isn't very good off the ball on the pitch. The disadvantage is that we forever ask why Karanka isn't playing Forshaw instead of Leadbitter/Clayton! Wait... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Brunners said: The advantage to two natural CDMs is it would let you have someone like Bahamboula who maybe isn't very good off the ball on the pitch. You need some good attacking full backs to justify playing two CDMs or it just gets way too defensive. Plus when we just hoof it we are missing bodies forward as two defensive midfielders will just get bypassed. We only need one defensive, a box to box and then someone with a bit of creativity. In front of those we can have Tav, Watmore and Ikpeazu. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mendieta420 988 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 of all the people we've been linked with this off-season mpanzu is the one i really want us to get Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,045 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Mpanzu seems alot quicker than Morsey for those comparing the two. Also will allow so to let wing go if we get a new midfielder in. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Borodane said: You need some good attacking full backs to justify playing two CDMs or it just gets way too defensive. Plus when we just hoof it we are missing bodies forward as two defensive midfielders will just get bypassed. We only need one defensive, a box to box and then someone with a bit of creativity. In front of those we can have Tav, Watmore and Ikpeazu. yep also a fair argument mate, completely agree, was just trying to point out potential positives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 If the rumours are true regarding incomings then our midfield sqaud without outgoings would be Mpanzu, Wing, Howson, Morsy, Payero, Malley, Hackney, Tav Potentially A good mixture Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: If the rumours are true regarding incomings then our midfield sqaud without outgoings would be Mpanzu, Wing, Howson, Morsy, Payero, Malley, Hackney, Tav Potentially A good mixture Think Wing will leave and Hackney will go out on loan. It's probably Howson's last season with us too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
notjade 1,174 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: If the rumours are true regarding incomings then our midfield sqaud without outgoings would be Mpanzu, Wing, Howson, Morsy, Payero, Malley, Hackney, Tav Potentially A good mixture McNair will move back into mid imo Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I'm still not convinced McNair will move back into midfield. Not only are we seemingly looking at signing quite a few midfielders but Warnock has consistently said centre-back is his best position and only really put him in to midfield when it started to become a necessity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,045 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 We need to sign a new CB before Mcnair moves back to midfield Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I think Fry and Hall will start as the CB pairing. Peltier as sub ... McNair in midfield ... Question: Has anyone seen Malik Dijksteel play? Could he have his unofficial senior debut during this coming preseason? Link to post Share on other sites
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