Brunners 7,952 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 was reading the opinion of a couple of fulham fans on reddit yesterday, and they were both in agreement that as far as wingers go, Kebano is actually arguably one of their best options. Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,872 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brunners said: was reading the opinion of a couple of fulham fans on reddit yesterday, and they were both in agreement that as far as wingers go, Kebano is actually arguably one of their best options. We stupidly sold Bamford to a rival so who knows we may get lucky and they do the same. Mind you they still have a Premiership quality squad whereas at the time we had a shower of the brown stuff so probably says more about the state of planning and thinking of Boro. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Looking at what Matt Crooks has said in his interviews and again we have a player who mentions the Premier League. I know some are just trying to be realistic about our chances of making it there and I don't disagree with those, still need to be proved that we can actually make it with this manager and this squad. But I still can't get over the fact some don't think promotion is even the aim or that even if it is, it's just some kind of pipe dream we tell people about to get them excited. Promotion is the target, to me that's obvious with Warnock in charge but also all the murmurs coming out from the club is that this is once again an attempt to take this club up, not to be a safe mid-table side whilst we go through some kind of transitional period. I feel pretty justified in my view that we should view and judge this team as a team looking at trying to get promoted this season and finishing anywhere even outside the top 6 should be viewed as a pretty big failure. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites
liambell42 103 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Looking at what Matt Crooks has said in his interviews and again we have a player who mentions the Premier League. I know some are just trying to be realistic about our chances of making it there and I don't disagree with those, still need to be proved that we can actually make it with this manager and this squad. But I still can't get over the fact some don't think promotion is even the aim or that even if it is, it's just some kind of pipe dream we tell people about to get them excited. Promotion is the target, to me that's obvious with Warnock in charge but also all the murmurs coming out from the club is that this is once again an attempt to take this club up, not to be a safe mid-table side whilst we go through some kind of transitional period. I feel pretty justified in my view that we should view and judge this team as a team looking at trying to get promoted this season and finishing anywhere even outside the top 6 should be viewed as a pretty big failure. We don't do positivity around here 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, liambell42 said: We don't do positivity around here Will be when we announce Payero on Monday. If only... Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiversideRed said: Will be when we announce Payero on Monday. If only... think it will be later in the week. wednesday is my bet. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroSmoggie 2,678 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Looking at what Matt Crooks has said in his interviews and again we have a player who mentions the Premier League. I know some are just trying to be realistic about our chances of making it there and I don't disagree with those, still need to be proved that we can actually make it with this manager and this squad. But I still can't get over the fact some don't think promotion is even the aim or that even if it is, it's just some kind of pipe dream we tell people about to get them excited. Promotion is the target, to me that's obvious with Warnock in charge but also all the murmurs coming out from the club is that this is once again an attempt to take this club up, not to be a safe mid-table side whilst we go through some kind of transitional period. I feel pretty justified in my view that we should view and judge this team as a team looking at trying to get promoted this season and finishing anywhere even outside the top 6 should be viewed as a pretty big failure. Agree with all of that apart from the last sentence. 100% the aim for us should be and will be playoffs. However, this is the same as probably 14 teams in the league. Not getting in the playoffs, although would be disappointing, imo wouldn’t be a big failure. I don’t think we have the players to be deemed a failure if we don’t get top 6. Our squad is also very small with next to no depth if a few injuries occur. Im not being negative as I also feel we have a good as good a chance to get playoffs then other half of the championship battling for it. That’s the beauty of this league, every club has the chance to believe this year could be there year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brunners said: think it will be later in the week. wednesday is my bet. Be nice though if we did it Monday put everyone at peace of mind. #MartinMonday Link to post Share on other sites
Youngy228 1,444 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) I'd rather it was Sunday Payerunday! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 How is that allowed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,398 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Surely that can't be acceptable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: Surely that can't be acceptable. Don't think actual payments matter, if you buy It player you spread the cost of the lifetime of the contract. And then whenever you sell him, any value above the contract value is profit for ffp. The only way they could do this, is if its a loan with guaranteed purchase. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Need to sue Fulham take them to court over this matter is blatent cheating 13 minutes ago, BoroJake said: How is that allowed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 836 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: Surely that can't be acceptable. It’s up to both clubs to negotiate what the transfer fee is and when it is paid - it’s purely a commercial decision and normally the selling club is interested enough in getting cash in to refuse any extended terms over and above the norm. If Liverpool are prepared to accept the cash at a later date, then there is nothing to stop them. the point is though that the timing of payment doesn’t normally affect FFP rules. You depreciate the players worth over the length of the contract - so if Wilson is going on a 5 year deal for £12m, say, then the cost for FFP is £2.4m per year irrespective of when you pay for him. Lazy journalism? 6 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: Need to sue Fulham take them to court over this matter is blatent cheating Then Fulham bring up the fact we accepted a deal in the exact same manner with Bamford and Leeds. I don't see what about it is cheating. Link to post Share on other sites
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