BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Payero watch is at 12 not 12:30. Strange I was sure it was 12:30 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said: I don't see why yesterday is a good judge of Dijksteel as a wing-back. He spent the most significant defensive moments of the game, i.e. the goals we conceded, on the other side of the pitch because of a man-marking system that pulled him out of position with nobody covering for him. I think we learned more about why having your right wing-back man marking across the pitch in a 5 at the back system is dumb (or at least hard to do properly) than we did about Dijksteel individually in that position. I still think he was decent going forward. at least why it's dumb to do when your forward doesn't come back to cover him. I still refuse to believe that there isn't meant to be someone dropping into his gap there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: All this talk of us switching formation to match up whoever were playing... I really hate that. Were hoping to be one of the top 3 teams in the league, we need to be imposing our own style and you only get results from consistency. Can anyone name a team in any league that has finished as one of the 3 best teams that changes their whole set up based on their opponents? 433 or 4231 is very clearly our best option, everyone can see it - so let's work on it and make sure everyone knows their jobs inside and out. If we're good enough at our own jobs then it shouldn't matter what our opponents are doing. Seems like an incredibly arrogant take to me. There are very few teams world wide that stick to the same formation week in week out regardless of opposition. Are we really in a position to say that we’re A) competing for a top 3 position right now and B) good enough to compete for a top 3 position by imposing our will on the rest of the league? The answer for me to both questions is a resounding no. That may change but right now, we’re no where close to that level of comfort. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Brunners said: at least why it's dumb to do when your forward doesn't come back to cover him. I still refuse to believe that there isn't meant to be someone dropping into his gap there. Aye, I completely agree with that. It didn't seem to be as much of a problem when we had Spence essentially playing wing-back in the 2nd half and Dijksteel just floating around the defence. But that means you arguably want 2 bloody wing-backs on one side just to allow you to have one of them man-marking and that seems dumb. Might as well be playing with 10 men half the time when you're on the counter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Youngy228 1,444 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Payero on bench Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/middlesbrough-fc/i-didnt-want-wingy-to-go-neil-warnock-explains-lewis-wings-move-from-middlesbrough-to-sheffield-wednesday-plus-sammy-ameobi-latest-3326170 Link to post Share on other sites
HolgateBoy 96 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 The thing about Dijksteel playing as a Rwb is he seems to get forward okay but rarely puts a ball into the box, and if he does it lacks any real quality. I'd much prefer him as part of the back 3 and have someone more used to playing Rwb. Another thing, although I do agree Bola has massively improved, his assists are a a bit shy for me. I think playing as a wing back you ought to be involved in providing a service for the strikers. Evidently, this was difficult last season as there was no target man, so i'd be hopeful Bola's stats in this area will improve now we have big Uche Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, BoroJake said: https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/middlesbrough-fc/i-didnt-want-wingy-to-go-neil-warnock-explains-lewis-wings-move-from-middlesbrough-to-sheffield-wednesday-plus-sammy-ameobi-latest-3326170 Doesn't sound great on the Ameobi front that, does it? Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said: From what I know we have only watched 2 strikers from abroad live. 1 which we turned away from because we were not impressed and didn't represent value for money. The other player is still ongoing but depends on outgoings such as Akpom for a fee. Was I Sory Kaba we turned away from? And do you know what we were quoted if it was him? It’s become a bit of a transfer saga for Midtjylland as the player wants away so he’s not getting any game time but apparently the clubs isn’t getting any offers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Doesn't sound great on the Ameobi front that, does it? Not at all. Reckon we’ll need to be very busy in the transfer window Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 That Spain team is stacked. Would be very surprised if Argentina don’t go out Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, BoroJake said: Not at all. Reckon we’ll need to be very busy in the transfer window I'm hoping one way we might be able to convince Muniz to sign is by bringing Lazaro in too as a winger, solving 2 problems at once. But then maybe we'll need to sell McNair. 😅 Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BoroJake said: That Spain team is stacked. Would be very surprised if Argentina don’t go out Can't Argentina still go through with a loss? Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 2,492 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: 5 minutes ago, BoroJake said: https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/middlesbrough-fc/i-didnt-want-wingy-to-go-neil-warnock-explains-lewis-wings-move-from-middlesbrough-to-sheffield-wednesday-plus-sammy-ameobi-latest-3326170 Doesn't sound great on the Ameobi front that, does it? No, but that is in response to the question whether Ameobi would be ready for Fulham. I don't think even the most optimistic of us would have expected him to feature after no preseason. If he's ready by mid September, that's not too bad. Obviously if it's much worse than we know, it's a bigger issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Denzel Zanzibar said: Can't Argentina still go through with a loss? From what I read, no Link to post Share on other sites
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