Youngy228 1,444 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I really hope the rumours about Sturridge are not true. He's missed 145 games with injury during last 10 years. He will no doubt be on high wages. Not for me I'm afraid. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
scotty189 925 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, TLF10 said: No Ciaron Brown in Cardiff squad tonight for they Carabao Cup. Either injured or close to leaving one would assume Hope we get this guy, wonder if paddy is showing him around 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, macapes said: You do hate Howson though. (Hopefully Payero takes his place) I don't. I just see him as the player he is, rather than the player people thought we were signing. 5 goals and 15 assists in 4 seasons doesn't represent value for money, especially when you consider that he has probably played more minutes over that period than anyone else in a Boro shirt. You can make some allowances for him being moved around a bit, certainly in in the case of playing at the back at times. However, it's a relatively small number of games, most of his games have been in midfield, and he simply hasn't done anywhere near enough overall. Add in the fact that his passing has gotten worse season by season - first season here it was 78.9%, last season it was 66.6%, that he's clearly responsible for multiple goals we've conceded, then I'm failing to see what he's done to be considered to have been anything other than a poor signing? He was a better player for Norwich in just about every area you can think of, but that's not the player he's been for us, and that's the only part of him that really interests me. £12m on him and Saville, plus wages, has been absolutely rubbish business from us in my opinion. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,385 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Changing Times said: He's largely been a complete waste of money. £5m and high wages for a player who has underperformed, even when compared to other midfielders we've had at the time. He simply gets away with a lot more than anyone else for some reason. I dont completely agree with you about Howson but his LONG range passes always seem much poorer than the other midfielders in our squad. I have no stats that back this up, just my observation, but it feels like his long balls are a bit more "hit and hope" than Mcnair, Morsy etc. Link to post Share on other sites
CWC 383 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I’d be over the moon with Sturridge as unlikely as it is. I recently watched his podcast with Jake Humphrey and he himself admitted he needed time and out and now feels better than ever and ready for a new challenge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
macapes 1,886 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Changing Times said: I don't. I just see him as the player he is, rather than the player people thought we were signing. 5 goals and 15 assists in 4 seasons doesn't represent value for money, especially when you consider that he has probably played more minutes over that period than anyone else in a Boro shirt. You can make some allowances for him being moved around a bit, certainly in in the case of playing at the back at times. However, it's a relatively small number of games, most of his games have been in midfield, and he simply hasn't done anywhere near enough overall. Add in the fact that his passing has gotten worse season by season - first season here it was 78.9%, last season it was 66.6%, that he's clearly responsible for multiple goals we've conceded, then I'm failing to see what he's done to be considered to have been anything other than a poor signing? He was a better player for Norwich in just about every area you can think of, but that's not the player he's been for us, and that's the only part of him that really interests me. £12m on him and Saville, plus wages, has been absolutely rubbish business from us in my opinion. I wasn't arguing, just doing as asked. I think he's been absolutely pointless, one of an armada of middling sideways passing midfielders. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
macapes 1,886 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, newyddion said: Oooh, I don't know about that like. I think he's been a solid performer, I would go so far to say he's been our best midfielder since he signed. Tavernier in midfield looks a different class atm.. but Howson has been smashing out consistently good performances since he got here. No. He's been distinctly average and not worth the money. Link to post Share on other sites
CWC 383 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Also where has the Sturridge talk come from? Is it reliable or has anyone got a screenshot? Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, CWC said: I’d be over the moon with Sturridge as unlikely as it is. I recently watched his podcast with Jake Humphrey and he himself admitted he needed time and out and now feels better than ever and ready for a new challenge. Problem is he's guaranteed to miss game time so we'd need to ensure we had enough cover to bridge his time injured. 2 minutes ago, CWC said: Also where has the Sturridge talk come from? Is it reliable or has anyone got a screenshot? Blanco knows someone who knows someone who knows his agent I think is the gist of it! Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Brunners said: Blanco knows someone who knows someone who knows his agent I think is the gist of it! Yes that’s a reasonable assessment of it @Brunners 😂 The fact that no ITK seems to have heard it makes me feel that it’s not true 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Blanco said: Yes that’s a reasonable assessment of it @Brunners 😂 The fact that no ITK seems to have heard it makes me feel that it’s not true You have, though! You're the most ITK person currently speaking right now in that you know someone who knows an agent! Unless anyone wants to turn up and make a grander claim, I believe right now you are the official Guru on information relating to Middlesbrough! So maybe, just maybe, if nobody else turns up you may be able to tell us more about how we're gonna win the league? Link to post Share on other sites
Oldham boro 64 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 According to Wikipedia. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, newyddion said: I would say that no one represented value for money during the 'smash the league' summer of overspending under Garry Monk. Average/Consistent.. it's a fine line. Randolph maybe I think you could make a case for? And Wing as well 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, CWC said: I’d be over the moon with Sturridge as unlikely as it is. I recently watched his podcast with Jake Humphrey and he himself admitted he needed time and out and now feels better than ever and ready for a new challenge. Well he’s hardly going to say that he is out of shape and not really motivated as he knows it’ll only be teams from poor leagues that will be interested. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: You have, though! You're the most ITK person currently speaking right now in that you know someone who knows an agent! Unless anyone wants to turn up and make a grander claim, I believe right now you are the official Guru on information relating to Middlesbrough! So maybe, just maybe, if nobody else turns up you may be able to tell us more about how we're gonna win the league? I will use simplistic terms so you can understand it @wilsoncgp…….. We are going to SMASH it 💪 UTB 😃 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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