Smogzilla 7,385 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, BoroSmoggie said: Jones isn’t from the academy. He was signed to the u18/ u23 squad and progressed from there. Still counts as a product of the youth system. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
notjade 1,174 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AnglianRed said: Pre-season... Okay smart *** - tell me exactly how many minutes all those players combined have played in competitive league or cup matches for us? Bet its not many... Since you clearly didn't understand the question: making the step up means establishing yourself as a regular first team player. Or at least making the bench and making regular sub appearances...in competitive matches. Sorry but if you think we should be pumping out a couple of Downings and Gibsons every year, you're deluded. In the last couple of years Coulson, Wood and Spence have all made the step up to the first team in competitive league or cup matches 4 minutes ago, BoroSmoggie said: Jones isn’t really from the academy. In what way? He was in the academy for two years as an under 23. Just because we got him from somewhere else doesn't mean he's not from the academy Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Johnson 613 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 This transfer thread has gone way off beam. Is all the verbal jousting and aggression necessary? This board was a clear cut above other Boro boards. Sadly it is descending into no better if the current posts are now representative. 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Robin Johnson said: This transfer thread has gone way off beam. Is all the verbal jousting and aggression necessary? This board was a clear cut above other Boro boards. Sadly it is descending into no better if the current posts are now representative. This is no different to any other transfer thread that has ever been on here. 😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroSmoggie 2,678 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, notjade said: In what way? He was in the academy for two years as an under 23. Just because we got him from somewhere else doesn't mean he's not from the academy He signed when he was 20 years old, and has been out on loan twice. He’s not exactly a ‘typical’ academy product like the other players you mentioned, where they’ve literally been nurtured through the age groups. That’s all I’m saying. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
JB-boro-22 18 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 My day... Wake up 10 new pages on oneboro, brilliant!! Continues to read 10 pages of bickering about Neil warnock, not much transfer news. Few hours later checks oneboro, 10 new pages, still thinks brilliant. More bickering. This goes on all day! It's the hope that kills you! Haha I've followed this forum for a few years now without really posting, however this year seems to be really low, despite the positive transfers and the Scott appointment. Lets try some positivity boys, it honestly does not hurt. We all want the same outcome. UTFB!! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Johnson 613 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said: This is no different to any other transfer thread that has ever been on here. 😄 I have largely seen this board as a place where debate could take place - one of its major strengths. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Anything of note on transfer front today? Any tweets from overseas journalists etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,385 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, TLF10 said: Anything of note on transfer front today? Any tweets from overseas journalists etc? Just a couple about Akpom. A few after him now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,118 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Not been keeping up but Sporar should be sorted by Tuesday 21 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,385 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Lurker said: Not been keeping up but Sporar should be sorted by Tuesday Thank you for getting the thread back on track 🤣 3 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,401 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Lurker said: Not been keeping up but Sporar should be sorted by Tuesday He can't be as dedicated as Payero, he's still not following Middlesbrough on social media, Payero was following Boro nearly a month before he finally arrived. Booooooooo. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Lurker said: Not been keeping up but Sporar should be sorted by Tuesday Thanks Lurker. Is that despite the late issue NW referred to. Assume its been overcome? You heard anything else mate? Thanks in advance for the info Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, notjade said: Sorry but if you think we should be pumping out a couple of Downings and Gibsons every year, you're deluded. In the last couple of years Coulson, Wood and Spence have all made the step up to the first team in competitive league or cup matches In what way? He was in the academy for two years as an under 23. Just because we got him from somewhere else doesn't mean he's not from the academy Why is it DELUDED to want want more academy youngsters to establish themselves as regular first team, or at least squad players? Just because it isn't currently "fashionable" as managers are seemingly under the gun from the get-go these days. Whats the point of even having an academy if the majority of graduates either end up on loan or sold to lower league clubs? IMO there needs to be a culture shift in football where academy graduates are given more of a chance to play regular first team football, instead of clubs relying on signings. Obviously not all can make the grade, but to be worth having, academies should be turning out more than they currently are. Also FYI Wood made a total of 3 sub appearances last season, Coulson made 5 starts and 12 sub appearances and Hackney just the 1 sub appearance. That is NOT establishing yourself as a first teamer and therefore NOT making the step up. I'll give you Spence, but how many arguments have there been on here about whether he is even worth keeping? Seems to be coming good now, but the season is still young. Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,012 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hopefully NW actually wants him Have a really good feeling about Sporar providing we sort our horrific creativity/composure problems out 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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