Osvaldojnr 85 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Try again for what? I'm not sure what is that you're saying? Maybe try not to have a pre biased counter point in that case 🤷🏻♂️ Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,978 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: People will probably try to say that we shouldn't have signed ameobi because of underlying injury problems, but it's impossible to say if there was anything there before we signed him so can't really criticise the club for that. On the other hand, we shouldn't have signed him anyway, because he's a crap player. I'm just grateful that we are too astute to make the same mistake twice and we aren't in the market for any more perma-crocks for the left side of the pitch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 2,267 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 To be fair, a lot of this is just conjecture. While I have no doubt that those passing on information do so in good faith, it can be like chinese whispers at times. Them moving the goalposts can quickly become us moving the goalposts and vice versa. Some on here seem all too willing to just accept this information as fact or spin their own narratives, and while its fun to gossip I certainly wouldn't use this information as a basis to form an opinion on the clubs dealings. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: I get there is reasons for it but there is an anti Gibson spin to a lot of ITK posts on here, it's the same with when Graeme Bailey's tweets about the Boro too. Is he particularly difficult to journalists or something? I have heard a few horror stories with how he's dealt with ex players mind so I can certainly see how he could tarnish a lot of relationships He banned a couple of gazette reporters a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Osvaldojnr said: Maybe try not to have a pre biased counter point in that case 🤷🏻♂️ I still have no idea what you're saying. I understood your original post, I'm not sure what you want me to try again with that's all. Do you think all business deals go straight down the line or do I need to try again with why Tottenham can't sign any quality? Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Duvel said: He banned a couple of gazette reporters a few years ago. Who might post on this very forum. Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,371 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: Who might post on this very forum. We all know it’s you Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, DevKWat said: We all know it’s you 👍 They'll be reading this absolutely gutted if people really think I'm one of them. Poor buggers. Link to post Share on other sites
MMC 1,000 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, DevKWat said: We all know it’s you Factually impossible - there's no alliteration in Changing Times, we all know Vickers can't resist it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
boksicdink 1,942 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Osvaldojnr said: It’s quite clear those who work in business/on contracts and those who don’t given the replies to this. its poor form, we may not do business with sporting but people talk, clubs talk and they sure as *** share opinions on whose word is solid and whose is worth *** all. Why do you think Spurs are struggling to sign any real quality? As has been mentioned also highly hypocritical given Gibbos distain for immoral agents who move the goalposts to benefit themselves... I agree, part of my job is negotiating contracts (sometimes worth hundreds of millions) and to mess about the figures/clauses after everything is verbally agreed is poor form. The deal will probably still go ahead but not without noise and likely no further business beyond that deal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamo Kev 1,558 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: 👍 They'll be reading this absolutely gutted if people really think I'm one of them. Poor buggers. well u certainly love writing. it wouldnt surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,972 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Who might post on this very forum. Certainly used to. I know one of the banned still does. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,484 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, MMC said: Factually impossible - there's no alliteration in Changing Times, we all know Vickers can't resist it. Hmm that should narrow it down a bit then 🧐 My moneys on @Redcar Rioja 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, boksicdink said: I agree, part of my job is negotiating contracts (sometimes worth hundreds of millions) and to mess about the figures/clauses after everything is verbally agreed is poor form. The deal will probably still go ahead but not without noise and likely no further business beyond that deal. It happens all of the time, and this isn't business, not in the same sense as you are talking about. In business you are always thinking about potential future deals with whoever you're negotiating with because you want more business. It's not the same in football, which is why players, agents, and clubs, try it on all of the time. Players know that someone will always want them, assuming they are decent enough of course, agents know that deals won't be done without them, even Boro have to deal with them whether we like it or not, and clubs know that they are where the money comes from. We don't need to do any business with Sporting Lisbon in the future, but if we do, and we have millions of Pounds to spend, then they won't say no if they need/want the money, because they aren't in a position to turn it down. Very few clubs are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Who might post on this very forum. Who are the journalists on here? Everyone else seems to know their identity! Link to post Share on other sites
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