RiversideRed 1,216 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Just now, pikerman said: Sounds good but haven’t six of those been free transfers which are presumably straightforward. A better measurement would be I guess how many have we tried to actually buy from another club and have succeeded, Payero, Ikpeazu and Crooks minus Munoz and Van thingy Lumley, Daniels, Bamba, Peltier, Ameobi, Olusanya Hardly difficult deals. I can't imagine lots of clubs we're interested in the majority of them Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, DocMartin said: I doubt Van Bergen has even heard Warnocks comment. People just using it as a stick because they desperately want something to beat Warnock with. Van Bergen is probably happier playing In a higher league for more money, just a thought, no that can’t be it, that wouldn’t sway him surely 🤔 We are a second tier team trying to shop in the bargain basement of a pool with potential to play at the top level. It shows ambition, but agents do seem to be using us to tout their player around to the highest bidder. We naively allow time to drag hoping we can get our man while behind our backs the agents are at work. Still it is far easier for some fans to blame a 72yr old experienced manager than face the truth i guess. I'm not convinced that a middle tier team in Ligue 1 will pay any more than we will, honestly. Aren't a lot of teams in France struggling for money? Also, I'd be fairly confident putting money that someone important in the Van Bergen camp heard NW's comments, whether Mitchell himself or his agents. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiversideRed said: Lumley, Daniels, Bamba, Peltier, Ameobi, Olusanya Hardly difficult deals. I can't imagine lots of clubs we're interested in the majority of them There were clubs lining up out the door for Lee Peltier’s signature away Link to post Share on other sites
Smokedsalmon 1,247 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 It is weird that last week we had deals agreed for a LB, Sporar, and Van Bergen, and we're sat here instead with a kid from non-league. Think we suffer a lot from our reputation for playing boring football, Middlesbrough's location, and our disjointed CEO/chairman/manager/analyst royal rumble mess at deciding who to bring in. Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Can’t describe how much I can’t wait for Scott to sort the *** at this club out 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,220 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, DocMartin said: I doubt Van Bergen has even heard Warnocks comment. People just using it as a stick because they desperately want something to beat Warnock with. Van Bergen is probably happier playing In a higher league for more money, just a thought, no that can’t be it, that wouldn’t sway him surely 🤔 We are a second tier team trying to shop in the bargain basement of a pool with potential to play at the top level. It shows ambition, but agents do seem to be using us to tout their player around to the highest bidder. We naively allow time to drag hoping we can get our man while behind our backs the agents are at work. Still it is far easier for some fans to blame a 72yr old experienced manager than face the truth i guess. As we haven't lost out on him yet we might as well all wait and see what actually happens. An opportunity to move to a top division in France is better than a move here, as long as the financial side of it is no worse. However, I think there's a reasonable chance he'll have heard the comments. I'd say an agent/agency would be keeping an eye on press mentions of their client, and given a potential move this would be even more likely. I'm sure they'd have passed on something like that if they believed it to be relevant. Whether the comments alone would be enough to make a player reconsider a move, I have no idea. I suppose it would come down to the individual concerned. It's not a great look for us though and an experienced manager should know better. In fact, he does know better, which makes the comments even more pointed. I would say that's a truth worth facing as well. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Smokedsalmon said: It is weird that last week we had deals agreed for a LB, Sporar, and Van Bergen, and we're sat here instead with a kid from non-league. Think we suffer a lot from our reputation for playing boring football, Middlesbrough's location, and our disjointed CEO/chairman/manager/analyst royal rumble mess at deciding who to bring in. Shush we're still close to the LB mate, it's been two weeks on but we're still close. Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Just now, RiversideRed said: Shush we're still close to the LB mate, it's been two weeks on but we're still close. We’re just testing to see how many times we can try to change the deal before the selling clubs walks away Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernSmoggie 4,227 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Disappointing but we don't actually know what's gone on behind the scenes, do we? We do seem to struggle with getting deals over the line - but as others have said, it makes it harder when we're fishing in the same small pond as hundreds of other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, DevKWat said: There were clubs lining up out the door for Lee Peltier’s signature away Ironically it's the only deal we've done quickly and out of the blue. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokedsalmon 1,247 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 minute ago, RiversideRed said: Shush we're still close to the LB mate, it's been two weeks on but we're still close. Is he Croatian? Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Just now, DevKWat said: We’re just testing to see how many times we can try to change the deal before the selling clubs walks away Jesus lads, dont seem too keen to have a meltdown Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 The lad from Belgium is a left winger and we definitely needs someone who plays on the right. Tav can’t do it because he is constantly moving into the centre of the pitch where Crooks is leaving us with no threat on the right whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Just now, DevKWat said: We’re just testing to see how many times we can try to change the deal before the selling clubs walks away Wonder if we agree terms with the player a few times just so it looks like we're working on more deals. We lost out on two strikers while chasing Muniz cause apparently we can only work on one deal at a time. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,220 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, DevKWat said: There were clubs lining up out the door for Lee Peltier’s signature away Well there is a shortage of bouncers so you can't blame them 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
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