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Offer has been accepted bauser has had his critics but he has pulled masterstrokes on both of these.  Now over to you Leo!  Payero small issues look sorted should be an announcement tomorrow or f

Gibson doing a Gibson. Having another punt, pushing for Bolasie, this Argentinian and money available for a couple more. (Not a lot though) Spence going for £5m

Not been keeping up but Sporar should be sorted by Tuesday 

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10 hours ago, GrimsbyBoro said:

Our entire scouting system is bizarre, despite every other summer being told we are stats based and money ball there is no consistency to what we are doing.

After the early Brexit we went to Monk who diddled us out of millions buying players through his agent.

Essentially did the exact same thing with ‘both ends of the deal’ Pulis before coming to woody.

So were Woody’s signings from the scouting team, his agent or from connections in the game. They certainly weren’t very good under him.

Then on to Warnock and his mates down the boozer routine (except for Hall who had already signed). 

Despite this chopping and changing every window we get linked to same players. 

there appear to be no consistency and certainly no model we are following. And that’s even without the bizarre changes in management style every switcheroo. 

You're right - there's no consistency whatever. We continue to chop and change our approach to suit the manager.

Unfortunately I don't see this changing until Gibson realises this short-termism is the reason Boro aren't making any progress. I mean, how can you progress when you don't plan any further ahead than the next season (when you don't have PL millions to buy solutions to problems)?

 

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We seem to have the same transfer targets regardless of who is the manager once a name goes onto the list we continue to try to sign them regardless of who we have in charge

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12 minutes ago, AnglianRed said:

You're right - there's no consistency whatever. We continue to chop and change our approach to suit the manager.

Unfortunately I don't see this changing until Gibson realises this short-termism is the reason Boro aren't making any progress. I mean, how can you progress when you don't plan any further ahead than the next season (when you don't have PL millions to buy solutions to problems)?

 

How can he club plan ahead when the supporters turn on every manager after six months in charge?

Its not Gibson who needs to change.

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17 minutes ago, Daveybongeye said:

How can he club plan ahead when the supporters turn on every manager after six months in charge?

Its not Gibson who needs to change.

Ah right fair, much easier to change all of the supporters! Move the town a few hundred miles south? Do the job.

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16 hours ago, DurhamRed said:

Ummm he is hardly gonna be a Pukki, Vardy and a Watkins is he. We need to be looking at foreign market and sign a potential star. Not some plodder

But then you went ahead and voted yes to brexit making it extremely difficult to do that. You don’t want foreigners taking your job so we’re stuck with the Smith’s, Wyke’s and O’Niens. 

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37 minutes ago, Daveybongeye said:

How can he club plan ahead when the supporters turn on every manager after six months in charge?

Its not Gibson who needs to change.

Eh - give your head a shake man!

Karanka lost the dressing room and was on a hiding to nothing in the end.

I don't recall the fans turning on Monk because of results. He just didn't smash the league as promised. Most of the hate for him stemmed from some of his comments about the club and the fact he spent a huge amount of money but didn't get us back in the PL.

In any case I think the decision to sack him was because he didn't have us near the top of the table...similar to Southgate, rather than because he was doing a really bad job.

Gibson actually wanted Pulis to stay...but on half his previous salary. But the football was dire and Boro were unlikely to progress under him.

Woodgate was an utter disaster and had to go to save our Championship status.

Warnock did the job he was brought in to do , but is on the verge of retirement. Like Pulis his style of football is technically limited and not likely to bring much success.

 

Gibson is the guy who hires our managers and its his fault he keeps hiring old guys who are one or two contracts away from retirement, or rookies who are out of their depth. Its his fault he's splashed the cash one season then forced the next guy to work with limited funds.

Its Gibson's fault the club has never had a long term plan of 3 or more seasons, which was based on slow and steady growth. Its always been boom or bust with him.

Who else would you blame for the lack of forward planning? The chairman doesn't have to sack a manager just because the fans don't like him, but the last several appointments were unsustainable for a variety of reasons, either financial, footballing or simply due to the manager's age.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Borodane said:

But then you went ahead and voted yes to brexit making it extremely difficult to do that. You don’t want foreigners taking your job so we’re stuck with the Smith’s, Wyke’s and O’Niens. 

Do you know how he voted?

There's no need for comments like this, even if "you" is referring to the country rather than DurhamRed.

It's something I've seen you do repeatedly, it's unpleasant.

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1 hour ago, Borodane said:

But then you went ahead and voted yes to brexit making it extremely difficult to do that. You don’t want foreigners taking your job so we’re stuck with the Smith’s, Wyke’s and O’Niens. 

Keep politics off this thread pal you've been at it all the way through

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What? It wasn’t personal. How could it be personal when I have no idea what he voted. It was purely stating fact that the English population voted to exit the EU. People constantly say that we should look at cheap foreign talent and I’m merely reminding those that it’s not possible due to Brexit as those players in all likelihood won’t get a work permit, as they need to be regulars for their national team. How is that political? 

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Come on lads, let's kiss and make up. Let's forget about politics on this thread and talk about football, or we can return to biscuits. How about dreaming of when we can return to the Riverside and have a pint 🍺 and a burger 🍔 at halftime. 

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3 minutes ago, Oldham boro said:

Come on lads, let's kiss and make up. Let's forget about politics on this thread and talk about football, or we can return to biscuits. How about dreaming of when we can return to the Riverside and have a pint 🍺 and a burger 🍔 at halftime. 

I like to get a pork pie 🥧  in the good food joint for half time when I’m over. Yum yum 😋 

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5 minutes ago, Oldham boro said:

Come on lads, let's kiss and make up. Let's forget about politics on this thread and talk about football, or we can return to biscuits. How about dreaming of when we can return to the Riverside and have a pint 🍺 and a burger 🍔 at halftime. 

 If we'd voted remain it would've been a far tastier Pilsner and  Paella at halftime... 😉

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He is right though. Brexit is and will have an impact on us. That isn't political, it's fact. We are having to look at cheap lower league options rather than cheap foreign options. Brentford have got promoted at just the right time. Their model wouldn't work in the UK now. Watford's might. They can use their overseas clubs to bed players in.

So other than our own youth players we are looking at premier loans, out of contract UK based players or the likes of Dijksteel, Brown and Bola. 

One problem is our fans would have binned those 3 off after 6 games. Thankfully we couldn't or chose not to. 

We need to adjust our mindset as a club. And hope we can build and effective team with the options we have. It is possible.  But needs time, luck and patience.

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