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5 minutes ago, Will said:

Clubs are poorly run.

I do find it an odd difference between the US and UK that when big sports stars get paid big money over there there isn't this pearl clutching disgust that they earn a lot of money, instead they congratulate them for making their money and accept that they are the attraction and therefore deserve their share of the pie.

Although in the US sports stars contracts can be ripped up at any time if they suffer a long term injury or aren't performing, you don't end up with a Rudy Gestede situation in American sports which means fans don't get as resentful.

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4 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said:

the average wage is just over 4k a week in the championship, which is much lower than id have guessed!

https://thepfsa.co.uk/football-wages-how-much-do-footballers-get-paid/#:~:text=The average wage of a,around £200%2C000 a year.

That'll factor in all those players on their first professional contract on a few hundred quid a week though won't it? That'll distort the average pretty considerably. 

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2 minutes ago, Foogle said:

Although in the US sports stars contracts can be ripped up at any time if they suffer a long term injury or aren't performing, you don't end up with a Rudy Gestede situation in American sports which means fans don't get as resentful.

Depends on the individuals contract to be fair, but yeah some players can just be cut for little to no cost.

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4 minutes ago, Foogle said:

Although in the US sports stars contracts can be ripped up at any time if they suffer a long term injury or aren't performing, you don't end up with a Rudy Gestede situation in American sports which means fans don't get as resentful.

it's not quite that simple because of the way caps work in most American sports, and some players (especially in the NFL) have guaranteed money, regardless of if they get cut or injured or whatever.

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Just now, Will said:

Depends on the individuals contract to be fair, but yeah some players can just be cut for little to no cost.

Yes usually the ones with big guaranteed money in their contract are seasoned pros and the only reason they're usually cut is if they suffer a career ending injury. It's a great system for the owners but not so much for the players...

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5 minutes ago, Neverbefore said:

That'll factor in all those players on their first professional contract on a few hundred quid a week though won't it? That'll distort the average pretty considerably. 

Agreed, equally I have seen claims from other website that the average is more like £29k a week but the source is apparently a leaked survey and comes via the daily mail so it may be more like something the middle of those two claims

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30 minutes ago, Will said:

Clubs are poorly run.

I do find it an odd difference between the US and UK that when big sports stars get paid big money over there there isn't this pearl clutching disgust that they earn a lot of money, instead they congratulate them for making their money and accept that they are the attraction and therefore deserve their share of the pie.

And then they go all OJ 

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Personally I think the discrepancy is more damaging to academy players more than anything. Read the multiple stories of teenagers getting depressed after being cut from top academies because they haven’t ‘made it’.

The truth is even a career in league 1 is nothing to be sniffed at, you will still be on a nice wage doing what you enjoy with an amazing opportunity to move up the ladder either while playing or getting in to coaching (or a multitude of other football related careers) afterwards.

Getting your foot in the door at any professional level is still an amazingly rare opportunity, even if you don’t fully benefit from it your kids might. 

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Former Liverpool and England right back Jon Flanagan has signed for second tier danish team HB Køge. What a cataclysmic fall from grace he has suffered. 

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6 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Former Liverpool and England right back Jon Flanagan has signed for second tier danish team HB Køge. What a cataclysmic fall from grace he has suffered. 

has he had injuries or something, he's had a weird career.

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1 hour ago, SmogDane said:

And then they go all OJ 

Yep, every single one of them. They really should do something about it

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1 hour ago, estonpidge said:

NFL average salary is about $300k, with an average career of 3-4years

The average career length is correct, but $300k is lower than the minimum NFL salary, even for a fresh out of college rookie.

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