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2 minutes ago, Redcar Rioja said:

I suspect the Club may sell for a few million less than that to realise some funds. That said he is contracted until 2024 so they may hold out if an interested party came sniffing. Question is who would be looking at him?

Good question, mate .. 

I read once, that the reason Man U let him go, was cause he didn't have the right mind for top competitive football. 

He has some technique 

He has stamina 

He can shoot and pass and is good at set piece deliveries 

He can defend 

He can do his trade mark flop

But still ... I don't rate him that much .. as I wrote earlier, he is too nice. 

 

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1 minute ago, RiversideRed said:

Who's going to be the backup GK?

- Orjan Nyland

- Jamal Blackman

- Luke Daniels

- Frank Fielding

- Kieran Westwood

- Andy Lonergan

All free's with Championship experience.

Has to be a free or a loan.

I wonder if we can convince Southampton to loan Forster. I think he is going into the final year of his contract and is probably not going to get much/if any game time at all. I have read he is on quite a large sum of money though so its unlikely to be anything other than my thought process here 🤔.

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Just now, smogsterking the Inspirati said:

I would definitely want to keep Mcnair. Dare I say it in the event of ahem we actually achieved promotion, I think he is one of the players that would be able to make the step up. 

I agree but him going could fund two or three incoming and right now we are short on numbers which is why I suspect that considering the financial impact of Covid somebody will have to pay the Piper.

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Just now, Redcar Rioja said:

I agree but him going could fund two or three incoming and right now we are short on numbers which is why I suspect that considering the financial impact of Covid somebody will have to pay the Piper.

Problem is we'd be making up the squad numbers by selling a first-teamer. I'm not confident at all that we'd spend the money from one player on 3 players who don't just improve our first team but also cover the gap left by him. Unless the first-team is going to be better by selling him then there's no point, in my eyes.

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9 minutes ago, RiversideRed said:

Who's going to be the backup GK?

- Orjan Nyland

- Jamal Blackman

- Luke Daniels

- Frank Fielding

- Kieran Westwood

- Andy Lonergan

All free's with Championship experience.

Has to be a free or a loan.

Some decent names in there, for a backup (I know we want someone to 'challenge for the gloves' but lets call a spade a spade). Having said that, Blackman is probably on a par with Lumley, he would be an interesting one to bring in. 

Now that he is finally no longer a Chelsea player, he probably wants to properly settle somewhere, ideally as first choice goalkeeper. 

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As much as I would love a Brazilian here, McNair is too valuable to sell. I think most managers would have him as a first choice midfielder even if Warnock doesn’t. He’s also very comfortable at the back. If we sold him we would need another midfielder and another defender to get quality like him in both positions would probably cost more than his selling price

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19 minutes ago, SmogDane said:

Good question, mate .. 

I read once, that the reason Man U let him go, was cause he didn't have the right mind for top competitive football. 

He has some technique 

He has stamina 

He can shoot and pass and is good at set piece deliveries 

He can defend 

He can do his trade mark flop

But still ... I don't rate him that much .. as I wrote earlier, he is too nice. 

 

Still arguably our best player though

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mcnair is *** in a back 4 and we are well stocked in midfield. he is probably a great player to sell for us as he wont be missed really. he probably made as many errors being caught out of position at cb resulting in goals conceded than anyone else. yet some love him. hes good on the bal and mediocre off it.

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2 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said:

Still arguably our best player though

It's in the eye of the beholder, mate.

I think he is a first team player atm, but not the first on the sheet at all. 

Fry, Tav and Watmore ... Those I wouldn't sell for normal money.

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Just now, SmogDane said:

It's in the eye of the beholder, mate.

I think he is a first team player atm, but not the first on the sheet at all. 

Fry, Tav and Watmore ... Those I wouldn't sell for normal money.

eye defense was like a civ without fry, thats how good paddy is lol. midfield is lost without tav and watmore is only forward who scores. all vital.

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40 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

Problem is we'd be making up the squad numbers by selling a first-teamer. I'm not confident at all that we'd spend the money from one player on 3 players who don't just improve our first team but also cover the gap left by him. Unless the first-team is going to be better by selling him then there's no point, in my eyes.

Just for arguments sake his going would likely fund Crooks who has just arrived and also Ciaron Brown and Kean Bryan on the payroll thereby more adequately covering the defence and midfield. I'm not saying lets get rid but I am being realistic in that the money to strengthen the squad has to come from somewhere and we can't be expecting all these new arrivals at zero cost.

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30 minutes ago, Redcar Rioja said:

Just for arguments sake his going would likely fund Crooks who has just arrived and also Ciaron Brown and Kean Bryan on the payroll thereby more adequately covering the defence and midfield. I'm not saying lets get rid but I am being realistic in that the money to strengthen the squad has to come from somewhere and we can't be expecting all these new arrivals at zero cost.

Well we've already signed Crooks so if we needed to sell to buy him that was a bit of a dumb thing to do. That's surely not a realistic assumption to make?

As for Ciaron Brown or Kean Bryan, again, they're not improving the first 11 as far as I understand it so why bother selling someone who is pretty emphatically one of our best players (including having the prestigious oneBoro Player of the Season 2020/21 award to his name) to fund moves for them? I'd rather keep McNair than bring in 1 or 2 players who aren't expected to start anywhere near as many games as McNair does.

Not to mention that Kean Bryan is out of contract so I don't really know why selling McNair is required to bring him in. I know all the money adds up but as it stands, we are making moves without seemingly intending on selling anyone barring maybe Akpom, Spence and Coulson.

I don't get the feeling we're in a bad position in terms of needing to sell to buy so unless that changes, keep your best players. We are only making the first team worse by selling McNair.

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57 minutes ago, Dynamo Kev said:

eye defense was like a civ without fry, thats how good paddy is lol. midfield is lost without tav and watmore is only forward who scores. all vital.

Won player of the year, only behind Tav and Fry on whoscored, played every game, most assists, I think he tailed off in the second half of the season mind but he was head and shoulders above the rest on the first half of the season. Fry was better overall for me but I wouldn't dream of selling McNair, as even if he's not out best player he is easily up there

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