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2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

There's a lot of assumptions you're making there though, mate. 1 player being sold and not replaced, 1 specific player being injured and another suspended. You know how I said big emergencies? Huge crisis? This is that scenario.

I don't see why we'd sell Spence and not replace him, either, really. He's played a lot in pre-season. Peltier was Fisher's cover apparently so I'd think Spence would be replaced.

I'd assume Spence would be replaced by a winger though - that's where he played most of the back end of last season. We have peltier and dijksteel as right backs, so I don't think we're getting any more cover there. 

But anyway, yeah I'm making a lot of assumptions and I don't have as big a problem with bamba being signed if he's only going to be used in a crisis. Problem is, for the squad to get into a position where that is the case we will need to sign at least 2, maybe 3 that are better than him. 

2 players being unavailable from a defence is not unfathomable, we missed fry and dijksteel at the end of last season, hall was out for a huge chunk, Bola is injured now, fisher is out long term- all it takes is a couple of those to happen at the same time and were in trouble.

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2 minutes ago, Brunners said:

Okay so my assumption that we'll sign one isn't allowed, but your end of the world assumptions are fine? 

At the end of the day if what you're suggesting happens, that's a freaking unfortunate crisis that might cause Bamba to have to play, yes. The likelihood of all of those things happening seems incredibly low.

It's not low. See my response to Wilson because I couldn't be bothered typing it out again. Getting 2 or 3 injuries at that end of the pitch is a frequent occurrence for us.

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Just now, Neverbefore said:

It's not low. See my response to Wilson because I couldn't be bothered typing it out again. Getting 2 or 3 injuries at that end of the pitch is a frequent occurrence for us.

I don't understand you man. You'll take literally anything as a chance to bash the club and NW, including a *** depth CB signing who is going to be something like 5th or 6th choice at the club. Absolutely unreal.

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1 hour ago, Mr_Maz said:

who said anything about unqualified, maybe they are.... it's all rumour and conjecture for now. not worth getting wound up about it........yet

You have been on the oneBoro forum before, haven’t you? 😂

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2 minutes ago, Neverbefore said:

I'd assume Spence would be replaced by a winger though - that's where he played most of the back end of last season. We have peltier and dijksteel as right backs, so I don't think we're getting any more cover there. 

But anyway, yeah I'm making a lot of assumptions and I don't have as big a problem with bamba being signed if he's only going to be used in a crisis. Problem is, for the squad to get into a position where that is the case we will need to sign at least 2, maybe 3 that are better than him. 

2 players being unavailable from a defence is not unfathomable, we missed fry and dijksteel at the end of last season, hall was out for a huge chunk, Bola is injured now, fisher is out long term- all it takes is a couple of those to happen at the same time and were in trouble.

I don't think we'll replace Spence with an out-and-out winger if we're playing with wing-backs half the season, though. He's one of those players that Warnock will like simply for him being able to defend as well as attack, whether he sees him as a good player or not.

Even just looking back on the York City game, the difference in the 2nd half when Spence was playing out wide when we were defending was really noticeable, they didn't get in down the left as often if at all in the 2nd half from my recollection because he was doing the job I presume Paterson or Crooks were meant to be doing in the first half and didn't do very well. I could see a scenario with maybe a Kebano-like player playing at wing-back instead of Peltier. He played there once or twice IIRC last season?

Still, I think we're worst off right now losing a Watmore or a Tav to injury than we are a couple of defenders, even assuming we only signed Bamba. I sincerely doubt Bamba is an alternative to Bryan or Brown though, mate.

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1 minute ago, Brunners said:

I don't understand you man. You'll take literally anything as a chance to bash the club and NW, including a *** depth CB signing who is going to be something like 5th or 6th choice at the club. Absolutely unreal.

I said a 36 year old who has started 1 game in 2 and a half years is a crap signing. I want us to have appropriate back up so whatever happened at the end of last season doesn't happen again. That's all I have said. I've also said on numerous occasions that I won't judge until we see what the makeup of the squad is at the end of the window but that I'm worried if he's our only signing for that position. 

I never once took a swipe at the club or Warnock during this discussion, and I've been extremely positive about some of our other links this summer, stop being so bloody dramatic. 

Honestly I'm really tired of being accused of pessimistic just because I don't like the direction of the club at times and I call out crap when I see it. Couldn't even be bothered anymore 

 

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Just now, wilsoncgp said:

I don't think we'll replace Spence with an out-and-out winger if we're playing with wing-backs half the season, though. He's one of those players that Warnock will like simply for him being able to defend as well as attack, whether he sees him as a good player or not.

Even just looking back on the York City game, the difference in the 2nd half when Spence was playing out wide when we were defending was really noticeable, they didn't get in down the left as often if at all in the 2nd half from my recollection because he was doing the job I presume Paterson or Crooks were meant to be doing in the first half and didn't do very well. I could see a scenario with maybe a Kebano-like player playing at wing-back instead of Peltier. He played there once or twice IIRC last season?

Still, I think we're worst off right now losing a Watmore or a Tav to injury than we are a couple of defenders, even assuming we only signed Bamba. I sincerely doubt Bamba is an alternative to Bryan or Brown though, mate.

The fact Bamba is here, hasn't got a contract yet and we're still heavily going after Bryan and Brown should be evidence enough of that.

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2 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said:

Anyone else somewhat underwhelmed at the collective signings to date?!

I'm happy with Ikpeazu cause I think he'll suit the system and we only paid 600k for him.

Other than that they're underwhelming.

Keeper looks absolutely mid-table.

We've not really improved in any areas though.

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15 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said:

Anyone else somewhat underwhelmed at the collective signings to date?!

Really like the look of Crooks from what little we've seen so far, even Ikpeazu looks much better than I anticipated but maybe I'm just biased now he's signed

Ameobi and Lumley have no feelings towards really, just making up the numbers 

Badly need a goalscorer and a few creators bringing in 

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5 minutes ago, Brunners said:

The fact Bamba is here, hasn't got a contract yet and we're still heavily going after Bryan and Brown should be evidence enough of that.

Dont necessarily agree with that. Going after Brown or Bryan is not a reflection of Bamba’s ability but a reflection that Bamba is not left footed and therefore cannot play left back.

I can see us signing Bamba AND one of Brown/Bryan but i think ideally NW wants Brown/Bryan as they can cover both positions. 

For what its worth i am hoping NW forced to play Coulson v Fulham and the lad has a great game and ends up staying. I think Coulson at LWB could excel and it seems certain its wing backs we will play this season.

People will rightly say that NW clearly does not want Coulson but he also thought Bola was garbage when he first seen and Bola soon changed his mind. Coulson could do same at LWB if given chance.

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19 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said:

Anyone else somewhat underwhelmed at the collective signings to date?!

Jury's out on the keeper, centre/right-back cover, an injured winger... I'm relatively pleased with Crooks and Ikpeazu so far in what we've seen but even then, it's when we play the Championship sides that we'll see what they're actually made of. It's not screaming promotion side right now.

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The signings so far have screamed mid table championship club because that is where we are now. 
 

I will be surprised if we can get a team that is functioning and gelling and will gladly eat my words if we do. But, we are signing players who are underwhelming because that’s where we are now, an underwhelming club. 

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