Neverbefore 10,695 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, GrimsbyBoro said: we have always had to pay top dollar for decent players to come here it’s really nothing new. what’s changed is the game and now most teams can do the same and we don’t really offer any added value. We really don’t help ourselves either though. We have been saying for a couple of seasons we need to reduce costs, sell players etc We hardly look like a club on the up. “Oh yeah that club with financial concerns that have been bleeting on publically for years about having no money I will join them” Hmm while theres an element of truth to this, it's not always been the case. When we signed karanka, premier League crystal palace were going hard for him. But he chose us because of Gibson being able to sell our vision (although I think a lot of that may have been based on mourinho and Kenyon's influence). The problem at the moment is that along with all those other factors, I don't believe we have a vision to sell. It's obvious what we're trying to do - get promoted with a very experienced manager who has done it before. But what's the plan beyond that? It's all so unimaginative. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,872 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, stinkfinger said: Gill was going for Joan Collins.😂 More likely that he was going for Michael Collins to fly us to the moon but unfortunately he passed away a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Judging by the linked list seems like we are destined to be lumbered with a squad of 30 somethings when NW leaves. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Weasel said: Me either if the alternatives weren't some other colossus type player from the football league 😟. Would rather be linked with better footballers but unfortunately that ain't happening under Warnock. I mean, out of those that have been mentioned, Collins doesn't represent anything significantly different to Smith or Wyke, for me. There's not many strikers we've been linked with that really make me think 'promotion material'. Diedhiou is probably the best in terms of consistency of scoring goals at this level but he's apparently not a particularly good target man either. The whole striker situation, our linked targets and thinking about how they'll be here beyond Warnock, it's pretty depressing to think our management would be disappointed to miss out on James Collins whether he's meant to be the main man or the back up to them. On the striker front, I was hoping for maybe a bit more imagination than what we've heard so far. It feels more like we're preparing for a relegation battle than a promotion challenge. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 That reminds me can someone create a concise transfer thread? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: The problem at the moment is that along with all those other factors, I don't believe we have a vision to sell. It's obvious what we're trying to do - get promoted with a very experienced manager who has done it before. But what's the plan beyond that? It's all so unimaginative. So much so that we can't even attract players who fit the unimaginative brand of football we play. I honestly can't look at us and Cardiff and see that James Collins is making a decision to sign for them over us based on their footballing vision. They've gone from Warnock, to Harris, to McCarthy and their most successful spell in that time was with our current manager in charge. No disrespect to Cardiff but it feels like this isn't much of a decision based on football. If the choice is between us and them right now, it feels more like a choice of who decides to offer more money or if they prefer the idea of living in a capital city. The other non-footballing factors that you mentioned above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said: That reminds me can someone create a concise transfer thread? 😂 As long as we can still talk about our favourite biscuits as well. 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Youngy228 1,444 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Could Cardiff signing Collins lead to us signing Glatzel? Link to post Share on other sites
p_mards 1,363 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Run-of-the-mill 30 year old lower league plodders like Neil Collins turning us down highlights how our lack of club strategy leaves us in such a poor position to sign anyone. As we can't outspend teams, we've either got to innovate and have our own efficient plan - much like the vast majority of clubs of our size or smaller now - or we're going to be competing with better resourced teams for the likes of Neil Collins who are inevitably going to turn us down. We're at the back of the queue when any half decent Championship player becomes available. We had a similar situation with Kieffer Moore joining Cardiff ahead of us last summer too. Here we are, and here we'll remain until Gibson gets his head out of the 1990s. The footballing world has changed drastically and we're seemingly absolutely unaware. Edited May 18, 2021 by p_mards 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Johnson 613 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 We should employ a past player in a consulting role. Speak to prospective signings. Build up what a good club it is to be at. For me The Little Fella would be ideal. 2/3 months contract and be involved in all conversations with prospective signings. Too imaginative for the club this type of thinking! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 FFS guys less of the doom and gloom. we've been worse we started this sesson worse, and improved there are plenty of players available in priority positions, and types we need that are better than what we have new players will improve the squad the window isn't even open yet every club will miss out on targets we missed out on a few to end up with Morsy, and he's been execellent 7 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, AnglianRed said: As long as we can still talk about our favourite biscuits as well. 😁 That's reserved for the general biscuit transfer thread! Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,179 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, Youngy228 said: Could Cardiff signing Collins lead to us signing Glatzel? Possibly but if we can't afford Collins wages im sure Glatzel would be on more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Didn't want us to sign Collins anyway as he's a 30 year old plodder Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, TeaCider24 said: Is that really surprising? Cardiff were in the Premier League more recently, they've finished above us for years now and they have parachute payments. Cardiff will no longer have parashoot payments Link to post Share on other sites
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