estonpidge 1,449 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 NW will allow him to get fit at the club when he's ready and make a deal if we need him/he's good enough Link to post Share on other sites
Robin Johnson 616 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 To me, the players we’ve been linked with is both underwhelming and the realisation how far we have gone back as a club. Should we be worse than Palace? Burnley?Brighton? To name but 3? In my opinion certainly not. But years of constant mismanagement, poor recruitment of both players, scouts and managerial positions have left us chasing more an illusion than a realistic ambition. I can’t for the life of me see how potentially a bunch of journeymen can be moulded into a promotion prospect- I really can’t. I hope beyond hope to be proven wrong 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Boroinredcar 170 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Boroscally96 said: He's left because he couldn't agree terms with Cardiff so might be out of our range, plus he'd be 2nd fiddle to Bola. Why should Cardiff be able to offer better wages than us. Link to post Share on other sites
mendieta420 1,007 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Brunners said: Seriously? Agree with Humpty then, that is ballsy if he was offered a contract and rejected it. the financial reality will hit him in 4-5 weeks and he'll have to accept something much worse or end up in Australia Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boroinredcar said: Why should Cardiff be able to offer better wages than us. They're in far less debt than us. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, mendieta420 said: the financial reality will hit him in 4-5 weeks and he'll have to accept something much worse or end up in Australia Worse places to be, to be fair! Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,968 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I wonder if we would be interested in Williams who has just been released by Cardiff. from a quick google search Warnock seemed to rate him at Palace. also courtesy of Google Bennet did his ACL in March, had an operation and will be out for 6-9 months. wonder if he’s on ssp now? Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,055 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Worse places to be, to be fair! Sounded scarier a few hundred years ago 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Boroinredcar said: Why should Cardiff be able to offer better wages than us. because they have more money than us, is the simple answer. Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: They're in far less debt than us. We have zero debt 😁 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, DurhamRed said: We have zero debt 😁 Not true though, is it? We're in debt to our own owner, but the debt is still there. We're something like £120m in debt. A large part of that will have been accrued during the period of offering ridiculous wages to average players when we were relegated in 2017. I doubt Gibson will want to add to that substantially. Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, TeaCider24 said: Not true though, is it? We're in debt to our own owner, but the debt is still there. We're something like £120m in debt. A large part of that will have been accrued during the period of offering ridiculous wages to average players when we were relegated in 2017. I'm sure this is written off when he sells or is Gibson really going to demand it all be repayed. If this is the case Gibson will never of spent 1 penny at the club. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: I'm sure this is written off when he sells or is Gibson really going to demand it all be repayed. If this is the case Gibson will never of spent 1 penny at the club. He's not selling though. I'm sure he'll continue to invest in the club, but it's common sense that a club with an owner of similar wealth with less debt will be willing to spend more on wages. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: I'm sure this is written off when he sells or is Gibson really going to demand it all be repayed. If this is the case Gibson will never of spent 1 penny at the club. He has agreed whilst he is chairman to not need that £120m repaying. But if he actually sells the club I'd imagine he'd want that paying off. That's why I've wanted us to start to become self-sustaining, so we can move away from being overly reliant on Gibson and chip that debt away, then when the time comes for Gibson to retire/sell up, we don't have £120m debt needing to be paid up. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: We're something like £120m in debt. A large part of that will have been accrued during the period of offering ridiculous wages to average players when we were relegated in 2017. We were about £93m in debt to Gibson (Group) before 2017 to be fair! Link to post Share on other sites
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