Neverbefore 10,695 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Humpty said: Agreed but I don’t think we’re at a stage where we’ll be successful at imposing ourselves on the better teams in this league right now. Warnock always seems like the pragmatic type to me. He’ll do what’s needed to get a result and that could well mean matching teams up to remove their greater threats. I'd argue that barnsley did this last season with far less resources than us. They had a gameplan, stuck to it regardless of the opposition and had a great season because of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Boroscally96 45 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Time to get checking for those Tokyo to Teesside private flights👍 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,401 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 He'll surely have some time off now. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,243 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: I'd argue that barnsley did this last season with far less resources than us. They had a gameplan, stuck to it regardless of the opposition and had a great season because of it. They didn't get promoted though 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, TeaCider24 said: He'll surely have some time off now. Yeah, don't expect to actually see him in a Boro shirt any time soon. We can still officially announce him as signed, though. Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 So are Argentina out now then? Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, TheJew said: So are Argentina out now then? yes Link to post Share on other sites
KeithLambsFaxMachine 727 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheJew said: So are Argentina out now then? https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/argentina-crash-out-olympics-opening-21165596 Gazette say so.. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Humpty said: They didn't get promoted though 🤷♂️ But they far exceeded expectations. Which is what we'll need to do to get promoted. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,243 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: But they far exceeded expectations. Which is what we'll need to do to get promoted. I’d argue their lack of adaptability prevented them from making that jump to the top 3. Small margins at the top end of the league. Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Weasel said: I've also got a curse with shirt names, I had Roberts and Akpom on my shirts last season 😬 Some others in my collection include: de Pena Fischer Braithwaite Ledesma Vossen Every single one left the following season. Then you should have had a Gestede shirt right after he joined 🙏 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 There's adapting for the one off and there's changing every game for the opposition. When the big teams face one another, like the Champions League final for example, tinkering happens, an edge has to be found through challenging specific threats, trying to take certain players out of a game, etc. I can also imagine as a player it's easier to take those challenges on board in bigger games, they're desperate to get one over the best. But 80-90% of the games top teams play are against teams who are worse than them and they set the tone with what they want to do. As NB4 said, that's exactly what we did when we got promoted. That doesn't mean we didn't look at each opposition and try to take hold of their specific threats, we know Karanka was quite analytical about each opponent but ultimately the teams and the formation never changed much throughout the season, barring the front 4. I'd argue it's easier to challenge specific threats in a game when everyone knows the basics of what they are doing 80% of the time every game and I'd say that goes extra for the defensive side of the game. The players will have to be really on it to switch between a 4 and a 5 seamlessly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: There's adapting for the one off and there's changing every game for the opposition. When the big teams face one another, like the Champions League final for example, tinkering happens, an edge has to be found through challenging specific threats, trying to take certain players out of a game, etc. I can also imagine as a player it's easier to take those challenges on board in bigger games, they're desperate to get one over the best. But 80-90% of the games top teams play are against teams who are worse than them and they set the tone with what they want to do. As NB4 said, that's exactly what we did when we got promoted. That doesn't mean we didn't look at each opposition and try to take hold of their specific threats, we know Karanka was quite analytical about each opponent but ultimately the teams and the formation never changed much throughout the season, barring the front 4. I'd argue it's easier to challenge specific threats in a game when everyone knows the basics of what they are doing 80% of the time every game and I'd say that goes extra for the defensive side of the game. The players will have to be really on it to switch between a 4 and a 5 seamlessly. And I really don't trust these players (or this manager) to be able to effectively manage these changes game to game on the basis of what we seen last season. It was one of our biggest problems in the back half of the season, particularly defensively - no one knew their jobs and most of the goals we conceded was down to opposition being allowed free runs all across the park. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,218 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Youngy228 said: Interesting line in latest Gazette article from Warnock - We keep getting different problems, you'll find out in the next few weeks we've had a few more. We just have to keep going really." Just seems like he sounded for a lot of last season really. Woe is me. Link to post Share on other sites
uncle_rico 387 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, TeaCider24 said: He'll surely have some time off now. Flight back to Argentina tonight, grab some stuff, quick week in the sun then over here to get going. Link to post Share on other sites
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