wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, AnglianRed said: True, but you'd think that with what he was saving in the transfer market, he'd be a little smarter about who he appointed as manager, or at least get some competent back-up for a rookie manager facing a tough challenge. I remember Martin O'Neill at the time was heavily linked with the job. I can't remember the full story but something broke down and Southgate was kind of our fall-back from that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, wilsoncgp said: I remember Martin O'Neill at the time was heavily linked with the job. I can't remember the full story but something broke down and Southgate was kind of our fall-back from that. Felix magath was the other name linked wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, AnglianRed said: True, but you'd think that with what he was saving in the transfer market, he'd be a little smarter about who he appointed as manager, or at least get some competent back-up for a rookie manager facing a tough challenge. Did he not have Malcolm Crosby as his experienced sidekick? Or am I remembering that wrong? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rioch's Braves 711 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, wilsoncgp said: I remember Martin O'Neill at the time was heavily linked with the job. I can't remember the full story but something broke down and Southgate was kind of our fall-back from that. The strong rumour was that O'Neill wanted to bring his own coaching staff in and this didn't sit well with Gibson and his entourage, which considering our jobs for the boys mentality wouldn't surprise me one bit. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Neverbefore said: Felix magath was the other name linked wasn't he? I forgot that name altogether but this is from Vickers a few years ago. According to this, the Bayern manager wasn't just linked, he applied and his application was binned. And here's one of his 'Untypical Boro' articles to expand on that: https://untypicalboro.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/mittleburg-am-r/ 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RiseAgainst 3,777 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 There was an astonishing story in the Guardian about why Magath bombed at Fulham, shortly after he left. It sounds like we dodged a bullet by not appointing him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/sep/20/fulham-farewell-magath-felix-madcap That said, it's extremely narrow-minded and parochial to dismiss a German manager because he'd supposedly turn the town of Middlesbrough into an enclave of ze Faterland. Wonder what changed in the run-up to Aitor's arrival? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RiseAgainst said: There was an astonishing story in the Guardian about why Magath bombed at Fulham, shortly after he left. It sounds like we dodged a bullet by not appointing him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/sep/20/fulham-farewell-magath-felix-madcap That said, it's extremely narrow-minded and parochial to dismiss a German manager because he'd supposedly turn the town of Middlesbrough into an enclave of ze Faterland. Wonder what changed in the run-up to Aitor's arrival? Kind of ironic that Boro then ended up in a similar situation with Karanka...though I'm guessing he was nowhere near as bad as Magath. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RiseAgainst said: There was an astonishing story in the Guardian about why Magath bombed at Fulham, shortly after he left. It sounds like we dodged a bullet by not appointing him. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/sep/20/fulham-farewell-magath-felix-madcap That said, it's extremely narrow-minded and parochial to dismiss a German manager because he'd supposedly turn the town of Middlesbrough into an enclave of ze Faterland. Wonder what changed in the run-up to Aitor's arrival? Peter Kenyon and Jorge Mendes Link to post Share on other sites
smogsterking the Inspirati 2,453 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Mount and Chilwell have had to self isolate due to coming into contact with Gilmour. Although are meant to have both tested negative. I think it could be a great opportunity for Grealish as Mount probably is in his position. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,403 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ridiculous rule if they have to isolate and the Scotland squad doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,403 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Given we've now qualified before a ball has been kicked, there's no excuse not to go all out for the win and try and regain momentum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 9 hours ago, TeaCider24 said: Given we've now qualified before a ball has been kicked, there's no excuse not to go all out for the win and try and regain momentum. Exactly, I hope the team go out and play with a bit of positive intent. Win well and play well and it'll get everyone excited again. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 3:50 PM, Uwe said: Every England fan last night (Caution industrial language) IMG_1425.MP4 Thats me literally every time Sterling has the ball. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 3:27 PM, Essuuaitch said: what England need to be able to win one of the BIG tournaments is a player cabable of running the game, an orchestrator if you like, weve never ever had such a player in the mould of pirlo, ballack, xavi, zidane or the likes. true weve had very good midfielders, defenders, strikers, full backs and creative players throughout the last 50 years but no orchestrator as such. trouble is that i dont really see one being unearthed any time soon as those types usually seem to be foreign imports to the premier league restricting opportunities for english talent getting chance to develop. maybe Scholes, Gerrard, Hoddle, or Wilkins could have been taught to develop into this type with a few bits of tinkering but so many times we end up playing important games at the oppositions tempo as we did last night. basically it was played in a manner that an old firm game would, and guess which side were more comfortable with that. I feel sure Scholes, Gerrard or Lampard could have been that type of player. Unfortunately at the time we were saddled with managers who tried to play them all at the same time, so they ended up on the wing, wide forward or playing behind a lone striker and/or getting in each other's way. Going back a bit further, I remember when we had guys like Paul Ince and Bryan Robson who were pretty good at it. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, TeaCider24 said: Given we've now qualified before a ball has been kicked, there's no excuse not to go all out for the win and try and regain momentum. Pfft. You're not thinking like Southgate. Since we're through, the obvious thing to do is rest all our first choice players and treat this as a friendly. 😉 In all seriousness I'm now expecting this to be as bad as the Scotland game. ☹️ Although if he does change things up and use a lot of squad players, it probably won't be through lack of effort...more because they haven't had much game time. Link to post Share on other sites
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