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1 minute ago, SmogDane said:

Well, buddy .. The talk was, that it was a disrespectful thing to take that silver medal off ..  And I just told you, in many team sports .. Even other football tournaments .. They play for 3rd place .. Sp dont tell me, that the 3rd place winner would take it off, before it rested around their necks .. 

A silver medal is an honour .. it's not a noose .. 

I don't think its disrespectful to take it off. It would be disrespectful to refuse to let the guy put it on your neck in the first place or to throw it on the floor in a temper, but taking it off after accepting it is just disappointment. 

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Heading away with the good lady wife so won’t be back on before the final. Sincerest best wishes to the ordinary English fans on here. Hope it happens for you 💪

I think for me it's partly about the connection to the area too. I don't hold much connection to the entirety of England but I love coming from Middlesbrough, I've lived and worked in a few places aro

Congrats, friends ...  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 V 🇩🇰 @ Wembley  ...   Good luck to y'all! 

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1 minute ago, SmogDane said:

He didn't ASK to get subbed ... IF he didnt get subbed .. he would have WANTED to take one

It was clearly a pre empted thing mate. He didnt suddenly decide 28 mins into extra time that Henderson can't take a penalty. He'd already decided who his penalty takers were and he wasn't part of his plans. You can blame that on the manager or on the player, I tend to think that a player that experienced should be gagging to take a penalty and make sure that his manager doesn't make that decision for him. 

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1 minute ago, boro-unger said:

I don't think its disrespectful to take it off. It would be disrespectful to refuse to let the guy put it on your neck in the first place or to throw it on the floor in a temper, but taking it off after accepting it is just disappointment. 

Yeah maybe .. But Phillips (I think) .. took it off, before it was on .. He literally didn't allow the official to put it on .. 

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Just now, Brunners said:

honestly if you'd said before we kicked off vs croatia that England would:

Reach a final.
Not concede a goal for the first 5 straight games.
Knock out Germany
Lose on penalties to comfortably the best team in the tournament

I'd have snapped your hands off I think; so this tournament can't be seen as anything other than a success. Everyone needs to remember that.

We were one of the best teams heading into the tournament.  No reason at all we shouldn't have made a final.  Two teams in the Champions League final, two teams in the Euro semi finals, players playing for some top clubs outside of England now, and young players who have come up through successful youth sides.  Most of the games at home.  Any other nation would think they were in with a great chance.

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1 minute ago, Neverbefore said:

It was clearly a pre empted thing mate. He didnt suddenly decide 28 mins into extra time that Henderson can't take a penalty. He'd already decided who his penalty takers were and he wasn't part of his plans. You can blame that on the manager or on the player, I tend to think that a player that experienced should be gagging to take a penalty and make sure that his manager doesn't make that decision for him. 

What should he do .. Refuse to run out, when his number was up on the board? 

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Just now, SmogDane said:

Yeah maybe .. But Phillips (I think) .. took it off, before it was on .. He literally didn't allow the official to put it on .. 

I'd do the exact same. Who wants to be second best? 

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3 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

So then I suppose you have to ask yourself whether it's better to try and win the game, and use your substitutes for that purpose, or if we are happy to wait for penalties.  The pattern of the game was set from about half an hour in, as Italy began to exert more control.  We allowed that to continue well into the second half before we tried to change anything, and even then our changes during the 90 mins were Henderson and Saka.  I'm not sure those two are capable of turning a game around that we were struggling a bit in.  Grealish came on 10 mins into extra time I think?  For someone who has spoken about the strength of his squad, he seemed oddly reluctant to use it when we were up against it.

I was happy to hang on until extra time because we were getting totally overran. 

In extra time they sat off us a bit and I thought they started to look really tired. I thought we might have won the game in extra time if we'd been brave. 

As you said though the best team won. 

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Henderson took a penalty at the Riverside in a desperate attempt to break his duck during the warm up games and lets just say that it was very obvious why he isn't trusted to take a penalty. "Carp" comes to mind although the letters may not necessarily be in that order.

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3 minutes ago, SmogDane said:

Yeah maybe .. But Phillips (I think) .. took it off, before it was on .. He literally didn't allow the official to put it on .. 

He should have smacked the official for even trying to put it on.  Teach him a lesson!

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