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38 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Just seen that Leyton Orient have revoked the season ticket of a fan and banned him for life after some racial abuse online following the final. That’s one way to go as I’m sure he will be incredibly annoyed that he can’t ever go to watch a team where he used to be a season ticket holder. Well done LO. 

Brilliant! This needs to become standard practice across the EFL and PL.

 

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Heading away with the good lady wife so won’t be back on before the final. Sincerest best wishes to the ordinary English fans on here. Hope it happens for you 💪

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Few excellent posts regarding the final and the tournament as a whole. On the pitch Southgate got basically every decision he made spot on leading upto the final. Even the decision to go to a win

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I think I mentioned it earlier but I think the two-thirds capacity has a big deal to play in this. More chancers knowing they'll get seats, more stewards willing to take bribes because they aren't gonna create another horrendous overcrowding event by allowing it.

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4 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

The absolute rank hypocrisy of both Boris and Priti Patel about racism is absolutely stunning.

Stoke the racism fire and then surprise pikachu face when racism happens.

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4 minutes ago, Brunners said:

Stoke the racism fire and then surprise pikachu face when racism happens.

I mean Boris has been proven to be a massive racist and homophobe already, Patel is the one who stoked the fire by defending people booing England players taking the knee.

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3 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

I mean Boris has been proven to be a massive racist and homophobe already, Patel is the one who stoked the fire by defending people booing England players taking the knee.

Yeah, Boris did publicly back her stance on that though IIRC. The taking the knee = marxist BLM is so frustrating too, my dad hates taking the knee because of marxism and I can't get through to him and it's so frustrating.

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3 minutes ago, Brunners said:

Yeah, Boris did publicly back her stance on that though IIRC. The taking the knee = marxist BLM is so frustrating too, my dad hates taking the knee because of marxism and I can't get through to him and it's so frustrating.

Boris just said he'd prefer to hear people cheering for England rather than booing, a bit of a wishy-washy thing to say but he absolutely has previous for outright racist/homophobic comments, especially when he was MoL.

Yeah the whole knee taking = BLM = Marxism = Terrorism is really sad and played out, especially when it's done by otherwise intelligent people.

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18 minutes ago, Brunners said:

Yeah, Boris did publicly back her stance on that though IIRC. The taking the knee = marxist BLM is so frustrating too, my dad hates taking the knee because of marxism and I can't get through to him and it's so frustrating.

Well, thats why there is confusion and divided opinions on the whole issue. Taking the knee can mean different things to different people.

I agree in the case of footballers they are simply taking a stand against the abuse they receive (or showing solidarity with team mates), but obviously thats not the case for everyone.

Some people can make a clear distinction, but not everyone can. Different people...different perceptions. Also not helped by the myriad sources of (mis)information muddying the waters even further.

 

Again, this is why I didn't like the way the UK adopted the BLM movement, taking the knee etc. because we have quite a different history to the US and root causes for the rise of racism. Different social & political structures too.

I don't even like the name as it assumes only black people suffer racism.

I feel if we'd bothered to create a movement that was more focused on UK-specific issues, there would be less confusion and division. 

I mean its great to show support for George Floyd and all the other victims of US police brutality, but we need something that highlights our own problems.

 

Oh and as for Boris publicly backing Priti Patel over her comments, thats pretty standard. PMs generally defend senior Cabinet members in public, unless they've done something absolutely horrendous...or they've been looking for an excuse to ditch them.

Personally I was surprised by her comments, especially coming from someone who's had to deal with racism themselves. But like Brunners' dad, maybe she just has trouble separating racial abuse of footballers from the movement the gesture sprang from. 🤷‍♂️

 

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3 minutes ago, AnglianRed said:

Well, thats why there is confusion and divided opinions on the whole issue. Taking the knee can mean different things to different people.

I agree in the case of footballers they are simply taking a stand against the abuse they receive (or showing solidarity with team mates), but obviously thats not the case for everyone.

Some people can make a clear distinction, but not everyone can. Different people...different perceptions. Also not helped by the myriad sources of (mis)information muddying the waters even further.

 

Again, this is why I didn't like the way the UK adopted the BLM movement, taking the knee etc. because we have quite a different history to the US and root causes for the rise of racism. Different social & political structures too.

I don't even like the name as it assumes only black people suffer racism.

I feel if we'd bothered to create a movement that was more focused on UK-specific issues, there would be less confusion and division. 

I mean its great to show support for George Floyd and all the other victims of US police brutality, but we need something that highlights our own problems.

 

Problem is taking the knee existed far before the BLM movement adopted it and people don't seem to want to accept that now.

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13 minutes ago, AnglianRed said:

Well, thats why there is confusion and divided opinions on the whole issue. Taking the knee can mean different things to different people.

I agree in the case of footballers they are simply taking a stand against the abuse they receive (or showing solidarity with team mates), but obviously thats not the case for everyone.

Some people can make a clear distinction, but not everyone can. Different people...different perceptions. Also not helped by the myriad sources of (mis)information muddying the waters even further.

 

Again, this is why I didn't like the way the UK adopted the BLM movement, taking the knee etc. because we have quite a different history to the US and root causes for the rise of racism. Different social & political structures too.

I don't even like the name as it assumes only black people suffer racism.

I feel if we'd bothered to create a movement that was more focused on UK-specific issues, there would be less confusion and division. 

I mean its great to show support for George Floyd and all the other victims of US police brutality, but we need something that highlights our own problems.

 

Oh and as for Boris publicly backing Priti Patel over her comments, thats pretty standard. PMs generally defend senior Cabinet members in public, unless they've done something absolutely horrendous...or they've been looking for an excuse to ditch them.

Personally I was surprised by her comments, especially coming from someone who's had to deal with racism themselves. But like Brunners' dad, maybe she just has trouble separating racial abuse of footballers from the movement the gesture sprang from. 🤷‍♂️

 

1. The FA specifically said why England players were choosing to take the knee so honestly, anyone still booing after they put their statement out is just a racist piece of ***, frankly.

2. I hope you're not trying to insinuate racism against white people is a thing that needs focusing on because....uhhh, no, just no.

3. Again, England players aren't taking the knee for George Floyd. How difficult is that to grasp?

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