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scotland will e totally up or this game, perhaps too much so . and thats where we need to set our tactics, Grealish is a MUST for this particular game for no other reason than he will draw fouls and maybe a red card. my only worry is that we have everything to lose and they have nothing to lose .  pound for pound were a class above them and as long as we take the lead early ish i dont really see us losing the game. we need to use thier passion against them ...then hopefully humiliate them . i really dont get the hatred Scotland and wales have for us and how much it means to them to turn us over. ireland dont seem to be as anti english and my reactions are to prefer them far more than scotland and wales  ...i hope neither wins a single game in the tournament because of these reasons.

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Heading away with the good lady wife so won’t be back on before the final. Sincerest best wishes to the ordinary English fans on here. Hope it happens for you 💪

Every England fan last night  (Caution industrial language)    IMG_1425.MP4

Few excellent posts regarding the final and the tournament as a whole. On the pitch Southgate got basically every decision he made spot on leading upto the final. Even the decision to go to a win

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22 minutes ago, Essuuaitch said:

scotland will e totally up or this game, perhaps too much so . and thats where we need to set our tactics, Grealish is a MUST for this particular game for no other reason than he will draw fouls and maybe a red card. my only worry is that we have everything to lose and they have nothing to lose .  pound for pound were a class above them and as long as we take the lead early ish i dont really see us losing the game. we need to use thier passion against them ...then hopefully humiliate them . i really dont get the hatred Scotland and wales have for us and how much it means to them to turn us over. ireland dont seem to be as anti english and my reactions are to prefer them far more than scotland and wales  ...i hope neither wins a single game in the tournament because of these reasons.

If you don't understand why other countries in the UK/Ireland don't want England to be successful then might I suggest you do a bit of historical/political research! Because it's very obvious if you think about it from a non biased perspective for a second. 

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1 hour ago, Neverbefore said:

Scotland have a really good midfield, probably as good if not better than Croatia's, if not having the same star power (or former star power as the case may be). It's their strongest area.

Not sure McTominay, McGinn and Armstrong are in the same bracket as Kovacic, Modric and Brozovic in my opinion. But it is only my opinion.

 

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6 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said:

Not sure McTominay, McGinn and Armstrong are in the same bracket as Kovacic, Modric and Brozovic in my opinion. But it is only my opinion.

 

Like I said, not the same star power, but they function very well as a unit. 

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6 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said:

Not sure McTominay, McGinn and Armstrong are in the same bracket as Kovacic, Modric and Brozovic in my opinion. But it is only my opinion.

 

I wouldn't have said Rice, Mount and Phillips were either but they made that Croatia trio look like chumps yesterday!

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1 hour ago, Neverbefore said:

Like I said, not the same star power, but they function very well as a unit. 

I'm with Dan. They aren't in the same class.

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My comments were retrospective of this performance to be fair. Whilst McTominay and McGinn are a good standard, i'd still find it hard to say they're of a similar standard to the likes of Kovacic and Modric.

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1 minute ago, Humpty said:

My comments were retrospective of this performance to be fair. Whilst McTominay and McGinn are a good standard, i'd still find it hard to say they're of a similar standard to the likes of Kovacic and Modric.

A lot of its down to how Croatia have played lately, they've won 2 in 9 I think? And drawn against a couple of really bad teams recently. They're bang out of form and their midfield hasnt been able to do anything about that, a d they were poor again yesterday. On the other hand Scotland have qualified mostly on the strength of their midfield and obviously their left back. So I'm that context I think my claim had some merit, though obviously as individual players I agree they're not of the same quality. 

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1 hour ago, Neverbefore said:

If you don't understand why other countries in the UK/Ireland don't want England to be successful then might I suggest you do a bit of historical/political research! Because it's very obvious if you think about it from a non biased perspective for a second

Err yeah, you first mate.

If you do a bit of historical research then you'll find that England spent hundreds and hundreds of years being attacked and invaded by just about every bugger, but especially the Scots, Welsh and Irish.  Then after a long, long time of this we had enough, started giving some back, and got a lot better at it than the people who had been doing it to us for so long.  Now, that won't be the history that you are talking about because the history you are talking about is limited to Ireland being the downtrodden victims.  But before they were the victims, they were often the aggressors. 

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It's worth considering that the game against Scotland could end up being a very different type of game to the one against Croatia.  When two British teams go at it, the football is often more like domestic football here than international football.

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3 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Err yeah, you first mate.

If you do a bit of historical research then you'll find that England spent hundreds and hundreds of years being attacked and invaded by just about every bugger, but especially the Scots, Welsh and Irish.  Then after a long, long time of this we had enough, started giving some back, and got a lot better at it than the people who had been doing it to us for so long.  Now, that won't be the history that you are talking about because the history you are talking about is limited to Ireland being the downtrodden victims.  But before they were the victims, they were often the aggressors. 

I didn't realise that occupation was still going on for your lot. 

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8 minutes ago, Neverbefore said:

I didn't realise that occupation was still going on for your lot. 

It's not still going on for you lot either.  Any excuse though I suppose.  Keep that non biased perspective up mate 🙂

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5 hours ago, Neverbefore said:

If you don't understand why other countries in the UK/Ireland don't want England to be successful then might I suggest you do a bit of historical/political research! Because it's very obvious if you think about it from a non biased perspective for a second. 

The hatred for England especially from a Scottish perspective, now is just a habit. They grow up with it. It’s so deeply ingrained it them they can’t really help it it’s part of their DNA. Having lived in Scotland for many years and witnessed it first hand it’s the reason I can’t bring myself to support Scotland in any sporting event. The media really do fuel this as it sells so well and the jocks just lap up what they serve. Mind you saying that means the game on Friday will be extremely difficult. To Scotland were their Cup final wether they progress from the group stages or not if they beat England their euros would be classed as successful. Wales is similar but too a lesser extent. Some of the anti English vitriol I’ve seen/heard from parents and coaches in football in teams as young as U10 is embarrassing. So if we are talking from a non biased viewpoint it has to work both ways

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