LBP 3,012 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Properly *** off after that, midfield was woeful and the defending for the goals Jones carrying our entire attack - outstanding yet again Uche was brilliant first half and barely involved second - need Sporar in to help him How was Howson not subbed off and Payero given a chance to actually impact the game? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Got to give some credit to qpr to be fair. Hated their time wasting, but they played very well. I thought chair was class for them. Proper footballing side too 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie-H 1,322 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Dom Shaw's player ratings are always a good laugh, Howson gets a 5/10. Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, LBP said: Properly *** off after that, midfield was woeful and the defending for the goals Jones carrying our entire attack - outstanding yet again Uche was brilliant first half and barely involved second - need Sporar in to help him How was Howson not subbed off and Payero given a chance to actually impact the game? I feel this way too. With both McNair and Howson being defensive minded it left a fricken runway open in midfield for QPR to exploit. It was custom made for Payero to occupy that space. Absolutely baffling from NW 🤦♂️ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Payero said: Against derby I'd have mcnair holding and play tav payero and crooks if tav is fit we have enough to be a good attacking outlet I think Tav is out until the week after. Can’t see him being risked. He’s so important to us Link to post Share on other sites
Downsouth 6,175 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Payero said: Against derby I'd have mcnair holding and play tav payero and crooks if tav is fit we have enough to be a good attacking outlet Trouble is we will be playing against a confident Derby who will want to further regain some pride! Link to post Share on other sites
NWBoro 7 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 That was woeful. No way should we be losing to a 10 man team. Some positives out of the game, but more negatives with the defending / goals. Lumley should have done better with the second goal, and the defence just stood still for the third. Link to post Share on other sites
Downsouth 6,175 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, NWBoro said: That was woeful. No way should we be losing to a 10 man team. Some positives out of the game, but more negatives with the defending / goals. Lumley should have done better with the second goal, and the defence just stood still for the third. And nearly a fourth! Link to post Share on other sites
TheJew 2,886 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think it's clear to see that Warnock can't identify a good goalkeeper. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, BoroJake said: I think Tav is out until the week after. Can’t see him being risked. He’s so important to us Warnock needs a win on Saturday after that tonight. Losing at Derby with their current troubles despite decent form would really get the fans on his back Link to post Share on other sites
p_mards 1,363 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Where to start… All three goals came from us being caught in transition in the middle third from sheer sloppiness. Add on the defending then we absolutely deserved to lose tonight. Our ball retention was absolutely awful and then we either didn’t press well enough or get back into shape. Howson and McNair were awful. Their passing and impact on circulating the ball was particularly bad. McNair and Crooks are our two most advanced CM’s and having both players, along with Howson behind them, really limited our ability to get their foot on the ball and help us keep the ball. Crooks had a really good game but our CM unit of those three just didn’t work. It was too agricultural and not enough quality at circulating the ball. We need a calming head or two in there. Crooks needs to keep in the team. One of Payero or Morsy should come in for McNair (or Howson). It would surely help us keep the ball and prevent us being so vulnerable to being caught on the transition. Warnock should have sorted the CM debacle out. He seems to think McNair is a classy player, but he absolutely isn’t a good CM as he just can’t circulate the ball in tight areas. Lumley seemed to have a stinker too. Jones, Crooks and Ikpeazu all had very good games. Spence done well too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,365 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Who’s idea was it to give him Nsue’s song too btw, never deserving of such a tune Link to post Share on other sites
Essuuaitch 330 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 didnt watch it, didnt listen to it.....thank god. but somehow weve managed to replace perhaps the most inept keeper weve ever had with an even more suspect one. our midfield engine of Howson and paddy(once of man utd)McNair are being totally outpaced and out played by every duo they are pitted against, we really havent got any full backs as such, the defence centrally still capitulates at pretty much every cross hoisted into the box and theres no creativerty whatsoever. topp that with a manager that reads his tactics from papyrus and a owner that treats the club as an indulgance . roll on next season. Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,399 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 "2nd and 3rd goals were really poor to concede" He's not wrong, but I'm suspicious that he didn't have any issue with the 1st goal given it was Howson twice at fault. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Erimus 63 478 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, LBP said: Properly *** off after that, midfield was woeful and the defending for the goals Jones carrying our entire attack - outstanding yet again Uche was brilliant first half and barely involved second - need Sporar in to help him How was Howson not subbed off and Payero given a chance to actually impact the game? Warnock's not going to take his captain off, made him undropable. Two crap captains in a row. Not to mention the goalies he's signed. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
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