kentucky 341 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 This the problem it's chaotic , no shape at all, one issue is Crooks ,what is his position, not a defensive midfielder, creater, wide man, terrible at a ten, he's continually out of any position on the field and leaves a gap in the middle, Silliki the same leaves gaps , Tavernier hasn't got speed off the mark for a winger,rarerly goes past a fullback, Big problems , this not a Warnock team ,why? Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) The squad we have we really should be playing a 4-3-3 in my opinion. Could probably do with a proper defensive midfielder who is good on the ball as well. Would expect he will be one of our main targets in January. Obviously that also depends if we have a manager who wants to play football by then. When it comes to formation I don’t think the man marking helps. Players are all over the place, no wonder why opposition players are finding themselves wide open 2 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Personally think we need 2 up top, 5-3-2 or 4-4-2, but definitely 2 strikers down the middle, we can't do it with 1 up top, we don't have that guy who can play without support so putting a partnership together makes sense to me. That is until we move on from Warnock and hopefully become a possession based team again. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,260 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 18 hours ago, BoroJake said: The squad we have we really should be playing a 4-3-3 in my opinion. Could probably do with a proper defensive midfielder who is good on the ball as well. Would expect he will be one of our main targets in January. Obviously that also depends if we have a manager who wants to play football by then. When it comes to formation I don’t think the man marking helps. Players are all over the place, no wonder why opposition players are finding themselves wide open Agree with every aspect of this post. I don’t think there’s too much wrong with the formations we’re starting out with and the personnel aren’t a major issue either. Probably a tweak here and there would help but the biggest problem is our shape and structure off the ball. There are far too many gaps in our defence due to man marking. For example did anyone see how far Dael Fry was following Hoilett when he dropped deep? It was frightening. That’s not Fry’s game and we don’t have a defensive midfield to plug those gaps. It’s frightening that none of this has been addressed. It’s basic stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 20 hours ago, BoroJake said: The squad we have we really should be playing a 4-3-3 in my opinion. Could probably do with a proper defensive midfielder who is good on the ball as well. Would expect he will be one of our main targets in January. Obviously that also depends if we have a manager who wants to play football by then. When it comes to formation I don’t think the man marking helps. Players are all over the place, no wonder why opposition players are finding themselves wide open Also need cover for Bola if we're gonna have a traditional 4 at the back. Link to post Share on other sites
ABH 470 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 23 hours ago, BoroJake said: The squad we have we really should be playing a 4-3-3 in my opinion. Could probably do with a proper defensive midfielder who is good on the ball as well. Would expect he will be one of our main targets in January. Obviously that also depends if we have a manager who wants to play football by then. When it comes to formation I don’t think the man marking helps. Players are all over the place, no wonder why opposition players are finding themselves wide open Isn’t that what JLS is supposed to be? Link to post Share on other sites
macapes 1,919 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, ABH said: Isn’t that what JLS is supposed to be? No? He's a central midfielder, not a DM. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, ABH said: Isn’t that what JLS is supposed to be? As macapes said JLS is meant to be more of a ball carrying centre mid i think Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 2,565 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 We continue to discuss the formation and keeping ‘shape’ - probably the most important aspect of being defensively solid. It doesn’t actually matter how we set up at kick off though if we man mark all over the pitch. Our shape is effectively whichever one the opposition choose to pull us into. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,974 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, CrazyL said: We continue to discuss the formation and keeping ‘shape’ - probably the most important aspect of being defensively solid. It doesn’t actually matter how we set up at kick off though if we man mark all over the pitch. Our shape is effectively whichever one the opposition choose to pull us into. It is so obviously the reason we are getting dragged all over with players constantly out of position during open play and at set pieces yet poor Neil's cataracts won't let him see it. The opposition Managers are using it as their tactic now and yet he refuses to drop it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,260 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 With all players fit and available given the recent upturn in form, who starts? Fry and Bamba start at centre half Howson stays at right back Midfield combination? Crooks/Payero/McNair? Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,297 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I'd be looking at ------Lumley-------- Dijksteel-Fry-Bamba-Bola -Crooks-Payero-McNair- Tav------Sporar-------Onel/Jones Perhaps a bit harsh on Howson but Dijksteel is a better right back than him and I want players in their natural positions. Onel has proven so much in the Championship, but Jones is our own and looks so exciting. 50/50 between them. But we're never going to have everyone fit at the same time anyway, so there is going to be plenty of games for everyone. Lea Siliki has one hell of a job on his hands though. Cameroon international with plenty of experience from the top french league and also from the Champions League. At the moment he is probably 6th choice in midfield if everyone is fit, and I can't see Warnock dropping Crooks, McNair or Howson for him and Payero looks like a different player who plays further forward. Probably not the situation Siliki envisaged when he signed. Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,968 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not convinced Fry comes straight back into the team. Bamba and NcNair are playing well. Fry, Bola and Djik need to stay fit and then find form before they get back into the team. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nunthorpered 1,922 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I wouldn't even change the current team. Its working so far 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, nunthorpered said: I wouldn't even change the current team. Its working so far Keeping the same opposition would be more important than keeping the same team. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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